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Yo guys.

Currently looking at a stepup on zacate. Too many teething problems for me to deal with the zacate tbh. Its a great little cpu that Im sure will get much better down the line,

But for now, looking for a cheap alternative to the zacate, while stepping up in size to micro atx standard.

I was looking at the amd athlon 2 benchmarks, and they seem to compete well with some of the I3's.

They seem about 15% off in perfomrance vs i3's but 40% cheaper.

Bang for the buck.

Anyway what do you guys think about it. How much better is athlon 2 than a zacate?

I want to go cheap, but get better performance than I did with the zacate (which had major issues streaming SOME netflix vids.)
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Zacate is faster than Athlon 64 & Phenom CPU's clock for clock.

Athlon II and Core 2 are both faster (and undoubtedly Core i3.)

CULV Core 2's are about the same speed as Zacate.
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Thanks for the reply mod

I would love to get some bench mark results between the zacate and the i3, athalon 2.
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PC Per did a review of a Zacate board an a ULV Core i3 so you can compare the scores on them.

The biggest thing about Zacate is that it brings better CPU performance than Intel Atom or Intel CULV does because of the GPU offloading for Flash and video playback while still using relatively the same amount of power, or in some cases, less power.
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PC Per did a review of a Zacate board an a ULV Core i3 so you can compare the scores on them.

The biggest thing about Zacate is that it brings better CPU performance than Intel Atom or Intel CULV does because of the GPU offloading for Flash and video playback while still using relatively the same amount of power, or in some cases, less power.
Thanks, checking out that review now.

I have the zacate with a asus deluxe mobo. Its great really. The problem is the hardware acceleration support seems to be lacking right now (which Im sure will get fixed.)

Many streaming videos, off netflix using silverlight, are choppy and unwatchable, where the same videos are running just fine off my i3 laptop and q9650 setup.
When I say choppy, the fps drops to 2, and cpu usage goes to 99%.

The question is should I wait around till they fix these issues, or go with something else.

Right now Im looking at alternatives.
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I was also considering THIS cpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0ii%20x3%20435


Looking at benchmarks here.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...aii_435/3.html


Only concern with it atm is the fan noise level of stock cooler.
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Thanks, checking out that review now.

I have the zacate with a asus deluxe mobo. Its great really. The problem is the hardware acceleration support seems to be lacking right now (which Im sure will get fixed.)

Many streaming videos, off netflix using silverlight, are choppy and unwatchable, where the same videos are running just fine off my i3 laptop and q9650 setup.
When I say choppy, the fps drops to 2, and cpu usage goes to 99%.

The question is should I wait around till they fix these issues, or go with something else.

Right now Im looking at alternatives.
Have you checked out the Flash 10.3 beta?

I would honestly wait for the fixes to roll in, it's still less than a month old so they're still working out some fixes. You won't be able to find anything as quiet or low power with the same performance for awhile.


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I was also considering THIS cpu.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0ii%20x3%20435


Looking at benchmarks here.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...aii_435/3.html

Only concern with it atm is the fan noise level of stock cooler.
Stock cooler on this guy is pretty loud, but you should be able to adjust fan speed in the BIOS to make it a little less loud.
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It sounds like it isn't gpu accelerating some of the videos. I agree with Tater Tot, get the newest flash and make sure gpu acceleration is enabled and wait for some fixes to come down the line.

Athlon II + 785g or 880g motherboard is also good performance for cheap. If you are near a microcenter, you can even use the cpu + free mobo deal (though I would look for at least a 785g, the 760g and 780g lack some of the hardware acceleration for video).
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Your comparisons are all over. You can't compare what I'm assuming is a full fledged, full clock Athlon II to any of these low clocked, low power chips. Of course it is going to be faster, but use more power.

Do you care about power consumption? Or did you just buy what you have now just to see how it is?

Which benchmarks are you looking at? Only the x4 Athlon II will be close to the i3. The x2/x3 will get ruined clock for clock. An Athlon II x4 is also about the same price as an i3 5xx.

So are you looking at regular chips, or low power, low clock stuff?

If you want something that will last for awhile you could go with the i3 2xxx and a cheap 1155 board. It all depends on what kind of processor you are looking for.
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Your comparisons are all over. You can't compare what I'm assuming is a full fledged, full clock Athlon II to any of these low clocked, low power chips. Of course it is going to be faster, but use more power.

Do you care about power consumption? Or did you just buy what you have now just to see how it is?

Which benchmarks are you looking at? Only the x4 Athlon II will be close to the i3. The x2/x3 will get ruined clock for clock. An Athlon II x4 is also about the same price as an i3 5xx.

So are you looking at regular chips, or low power, low clock stuff?

If you want something that will last for awhile you could go with the i3 2xxx and a cheap 1155 board. It all depends on what kind of processor you are looking for.
I got the zacate, loved the way it ran but its still a little buggy.

I decided I would move up toe a micro atx low profile build, and Im in the process of doing that now.

Its going to cost about 30 dollars more than my zacate setup and perform 4-5x better.

And yeah will definitely use more power and make more noise. Those are important to me, but more important to me is a product that works well (zacate was having major issues streaming certain vids that my other computers had no problems with. Cpu went to 99% and Im sure its all hardware acceleration problems that will be ironed out by the end of the year).
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