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So exactly where do you suggest putting the fans in my case, while I love your diagram I find it fairly confusing

and I'm only willing to spend about $50 more on cooling
You need buy no more fans.

--One 200mm fan in front intake.
--One 200mm fan on side intake, if it will fit next to the 212+. Otherwise, an S-Flex E.
--One S-Flex E in forward top position, pointed down. If possible, block out the rest of the grill on top.
--Two S-Flex E's in push-pull on your heatsink.
--No rear exhaust fan.
--Cut out rear grill.

This will provide fresh air to your gpu's (side air intake). This will provide fresh air to your HD's (front intake). This will provide fresh air to your cpu heatsink (top intake). The pull fan on the 212+ will exhaust your case (see item 2 in my sig).

At most you will be using four S-Flexes. You will use one or two 200mm fans. You will not need to buy any more fans.
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So undervolted Fs can be used in place of Es right?

what about these additional fans:

-s-flex in 5.25'' bay
-blademaster in back of HDD cage
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So undervolted Fs can be used in place of Es right?

what about these additional fans:

-s-flex in 5.25'' bay
-blademaster in back of HDD cage
Either one of those would be great. I have something like that Blade Master arrangement behind where my HD cage used to be (removed the cage; blocked airflow). If I had room I would put a 120mm fan in my 5.25 bay. You need three open slots for a 120mm fan and four for a 140mm. Here's an example of a three-slot 120mm fan placement:



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I don't own the tools to remove my HDD cage or cut the back grill but I think I can do everything else

so my final airflow plan:
200mm intake (front)
120mm under-volted SFF21F intake (5.25'' bay)
120mm intake blademaster (back of HDD cage)
200mm under-volted intake (side panel)
120mm under-volted SFF21F intake (top, closest to front mounting area)
no exhaust??? (shouldn't there be at least one fan, or a couple pci coolers)

fans on Hyper 212+
dual under-volted SFF21Fs in a East/West config

won't it take forever for built up hot air to leave case?
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I don't own the tools to remove my HDD cage or cut the back grill but I think I can do everything else

so my final airflow plan:
200mm intake (front)
120mm under-volted SFF21F intake (5.25'' bay)
120mm intake blademaster (back of HDD cage)
200mm under-volted intake (side panel)
120mm under-volted SFF21F intake (top, closest to front mounting area)
no exhaust??? (shouldn't there be at least one fan, or a couple pci coolers)

fans on Hyper 212+
dual under-volted SFF21Fs in a East/West config

won't it take forever for built up hot air to leave case?
Most excellent. I recommend getting a pair of side-cutters:



That's what I used to remove mine. Of course, I used a budget brand, but you might have a pair in your toolkit.

If you want to leave the grill, then by all means but an S-Flex-E on there, attached directly to the psu to get maximum effect.

But the grill removal works so much better, with far less noise. I've done it on two cases so far. I'd have done it for three cases, but the Lian Li case for my daughter's rig already has that rear space with only a wire finger guard.
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I have several of those, I'll try to cut our the grill I was thinking you needed a dremel which I will eventually get but I don't own one right now. Have you tried having the grill cut out but also having a fan? I don't care too much about noise and I might do that
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Wire cutters will work great for most grills, I had to use a Dremel on my P193 because the front grills are quite thick and required an insane amount of leverage on my wire cutters to get through. If you're just cutting out the back one you should be fine.

As far as a back fan, the Hyper212+ isn't exactly huge (unlike my Mugen 2) so you may see temp drops. Or not. Test it out for yourself on that one, I'd say. As it stands right now, my pull fan on my Mugen 2 is only a couple inches from the hole where my back grill used to be.
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I have about 6 inches so I think that leaving an exhaust fan after cutting the grill is probably a good idea
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I have several of those, I'll try to cut our the grill I was thinking you needed a dremel which I will eventually get but I don't own one right now. Have you tried having the grill cut out but also having a fan? I don't care too much about noise and I might do that
I'd say that after you cut out the grill, try it with and without a back fan. I always go fanless because I want the air to get out easily. If my rear exhaust fan does not move enough air it might not be able to extract all the input from my intake fans. And it's quieter.
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I see, I'll experiment with both ways, so this no exhaust is the big thing in air cooling right now, I always thought that you were supposed to have more exhaust than intake
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