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post #21 of 41
but looking again at your torture rack, it looks like it would be a waste not to put that chip through it's paces wink.gif especially with a nice wc setup like that. maybe you'd have less degradation with lower temps. I stressed mine for weeks at around 69c-75c
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(oops, thought I lost this entire post. good thing OCN has edit history)

Gaming vs Priming? I think it just stresses different parts of the system. PCI-E controller is onboard the chip, and also stresses the BCLK and motherboard. also I've seen memory errors come up as artifacts in games if your timings are off or ram overclocked too much. so my conclusion is that gaming stresses the BCLK, memory controllers, memory, and PCI-controller pretty hard. but not the cores and decode engines and such that are core-specific. so I like to game with prime running on low priority so I have all angles covered because I've seen systems stable while gaming and stable while priming, but not both at the same time. I strive for stability, so i do both.

I usually do a custom 1024-1024 with 4096MB mem in prime since that seems to hit the cores and mem pretty hard. why 1024k FFT? I saw one of my "blend" tests fail at 1024 when it was LinX stable, so I figure that must hit it pretty hard. I've heard the small FFT (8K) can cause some unnecessarily high strain to the cores and possibly degrade them faster, not to mention it heats it up more. from what I've heard, the weak points of these CPU's is the decode engine or something (hence why we run prime and not LinX/IBT). so I'm guessing larger FFT's swapping in/out of cache to the core would hit that hard maybe. but this is only my own speculation based on only a very basic understanding of how these CPU's work. I could be wrong and perhaps smaller FFT's make more instructions to be decoded per second and thus stress harder. either way, I think this workload is pretty unrealistic for real-world gaming circumstances.

so anyways, don't take what I say as gospel. these are only my own theories from my own experience. we're all still kind of feeling our way in the dark with these new CPU's and the best we can do is speculate based on testing and observation wink.gif

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1. Use your experience: Consider the problem and try to make sense of it. Look for previous explanations. If this is a new problem to you, then move to step 2.
2. Form a conjecture: When nothing else is yet known, try to state an explanation, to someone else, or to your notebook.
3. Deduce a prediction from that explanation: If you assume 2 is true, what consequences follow?
4. Test: Look for the opposite of each consequence in order to disprove 2. It is a logical error to seek 3 directly as proof of 2. This error is called affirming the consequent
Edited by s74r1 - 3/14/11 at 11:30pm
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post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by s74r1;12734198 
the extra cache is nice, and the sticker saying i7 of course is totally worth it biggrin.gif I would have gotten the i7 if I could fit it in my budget. that and I'd have gotten the Maximus IV just to match my red/black theme biggrin.gif but sadly money doesn't grow on trees. and if it did, there'd be very little trees here knowing my luck

I was going to get the Maximus IV to match my red/black theme aswell, but went for the P8P67 DULUXE insted, so far I'm happy (still need to RMA for the B3 board though)

Fans should be here with in the next 2 hours, then I'll have a little play smile.gif
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got my new fans fitted, knocked the temps down 2-3c, but the noise is too much, so i'm going to have to get a fan controller, or plug them into 5v insted of 12v
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny1107;12738838 
got my new fans fitted, knocked the temps down 2-3c, but the noise is too much, so i'm going to have to get a fan controller, or plug them into 5v insted of 12v

if you use SpeedFan beta you can control the Nuvoton chip on the Asus. have to go into advanced options and configure nuvoton to manual speed then yuo can change it anywhere from 0% to 100% whereas the BIOS and AI Suite only lets you go from 60% to 100% on chassis fans and 40% to 100% on CPU fan. (PWR Fan1 is not controlled I believe)

this info is courtesy of danielkza on xtremesystems. I was pulling my hair out too with fan noise tongue.gif

and I'm 12 hours prime stable sofar @ 4.8GHz/1.4v, I may go for 24hrs.
Edited by s74r1 - 3/15/11 at 7:58am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s74r1;12740007 
if you use SpeedFan beta you can control the Nuvoton chip on the Asus. have to go into advanced options and configure nuvoton to manual speed then yuo can change it anywhere from 0% to 100% whereas the BIOS and AI Suite only lets you go from 60% to 100% on chassis fans and 40% to 100% on CPU fan. (PWR Fan1 is not controlled I believe)

this info is courtesy of danielkza on xtremesystems. I was pulling my hair out too with fan noise tongue.gif

and I'm 12 hours prime stable sofar @ 4.8GHz/1.4v, I may go for 24hrs.

Whats your temps like?
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the fans are plugged into the 12v rail on my psu, the only wire to the motherboard is the one that tells you how fast the fan is spinning, I don't think you can change the speed with just that plugged into the motherboard?
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post #28 of 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by shredzy;12740153 
Whats your temps like?

around 68c-72c on my H50 push/pull w/ IC Diamond. as long as ambient temps are kept cool. warm ambient is more like 75+ but for some reason this chip is hotter than my last it seems.
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the fans are plugged into the 12v rail on my psu, the only wire to the motherboard is the one that tells you how fast the fan is spinning, I don't think you can change the speed with just that plugged into the motherboard?

yeah, you'd have to plug them into the chassis fan headers on the board. or get fan controllers.
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post #29 of 41
fans will only go so far, and the noise can be annoying for sure. I've heard of people modding the H50 or H70 with a bigger rad. I've always wanted to do it, but it of course ruins the whole "closed loop" thing and you'd need to watch the water levels.

someday I'll buy a Black Ice Stealth GT 240 to try with my H50. this thing would fit *perfectly* in the top of my Lian-Li case all hidden in an enclosed fan area in the top of my case. barely would fit with just millimeters of clearance. although I'd love to do this with a H70 instead of my H50 cause I like the smaller pump/block design but it's hard to justify the price when I won't even be using it's biggest asset.
Edited by s74r1 - 3/15/11 at 9:22pm
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Yeah, I think I'm going to get a new CPU block and Indigo Extreme to knock a few more degrees off before I settle on a final number. I think it would be happy at 4.9/1.4V, but I like the lower voltage of 4.8 a bit better. Bringing the memory speed and timings up next.

I also managed to get the sunbeam rheosmart and speedfan to do some good noise tuning for me on the four rad fans. My pump is also on PWM, so the whole thing dials up/down nicely.

At web browsing temps, my pump turns down to 1200RPM and the fans down to 900RPM. Load ramps up the 4600RPM pump/1300RPM fan.
    
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