Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel CPUs › *PICS* BC2 - VERY LARGE GAINS with i5-2500k upgrade from Q9650 Benchmarks
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

*PICS* BC2 - VERY LARGE GAINS with i5-2500k upgrade from Q9650 Benchmarks - Page 45

post #441 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
Its three generations old total, the I7 1366, then the first series of the I3/I5/I7's on 1156, and now we are on the second gen of the I3/I5/I7 on the 1155 platform. For being three generations old, its not bad at all.
I would call 1156 and 1366 the same generation. 1366 was the high-end and 1156 was mid-range, of the same generation... ?
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600K@4.5GHz Asus P8P67 Pro 3.0 (B3) EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600-9-9-9-24-2t-1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
M500 240GB SSD for OS, 2x256GB M4's Raid0 for ... Generic Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Asus VK266H 
PowerCase
Corsair RM 750x Cooler Master Storm Scout 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600K@4.5GHz Asus P8P67 Pro 3.0 (B3) EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600-9-9-9-24-2t-1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
M500 240GB SSD for OS, 2x256GB M4's Raid0 for ... Generic Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Asus VK266H 
PowerCase
Corsair RM 750x Cooler Master Storm Scout 
  hide details  
Reply
post #442 of 569
And the C2Q system is slowly performing better and better.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.3Ghz Gigabyte P45-UD3R EVGA GTX 960 SSC G.Skill Pi PC2-8800 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 460a 120GB LG SuperBlu Bluray/HD DVD drive Thermalright Archon Push/Pull corsair H75 (GPU) 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win 8.1 64bit Panasonic 50" G25 Plasma Seasonic X650 Lian Li PC-B25F 
Mouse
Razer Mamba 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.3Ghz Gigabyte P45-UD3R EVGA GTX 960 SSC G.Skill Pi PC2-8800 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 460a 120GB LG SuperBlu Bluray/HD DVD drive Thermalright Archon Push/Pull corsair H75 (GPU) 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win 8.1 64bit Panasonic 50" G25 Plasma Seasonic X650 Lian Li PC-B25F 
Mouse
Razer Mamba 
  hide details  
Reply
post #443 of 569
I was actually considering a 2500K. Just because I need something new to play with... But I think I will wait.. Will not give me much over my current Q9650@4.2GHz..
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600K@4.5GHz Asus P8P67 Pro 3.0 (B3) EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600-9-9-9-24-2t-1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
M500 240GB SSD for OS, 2x256GB M4's Raid0 for ... Generic Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Asus VK266H 
PowerCase
Corsair RM 750x Cooler Master Storm Scout 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600K@4.5GHz Asus P8P67 Pro 3.0 (B3) EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition 4x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600-9-9-9-24-2t-1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
M500 240GB SSD for OS, 2x256GB M4's Raid0 for ... Generic Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Asus VK266H 
PowerCase
Corsair RM 750x Cooler Master Storm Scout 
  hide details  
Reply
post #444 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
Would probably be lesser difference at higher resolutions, due to GPU being more and more the bottlenecking factor...

Also if SLI or Crossfire two high-end GPU's a Q9xxx@4GHz + would not suffice at all.
I think that if we are talking about BC2 that your statement may have some relevance to it. However, not all games react or utilize the same amount of resources as BC2 at this moment. An SLI/CFX setup should not be bottlenecked by a Q9X50 setup at 4.2ghz with at 1920*1080 res or higher. Lets not forget that the "bottleneck" showed on his system, may have been a direct cause of running a dual monitor setup.
post #445 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
I would call 1156 and 1366 the same generation. 1366 was the high-end and 1156 was mid-range, of the same generation... ?
1156 and 1366 are the same generation. The basic arch is identical. The only real difference being lack of QPI and addition of DMI (which is onboard PCIe controller) to 1156.

An 1156 i5 is basically a 1366 i7 with no HT. Benchmarks will show this.
Why upgrade?
(14 items)
 
Why overclock?!
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 760 ASUS 55i Sabertooth EVGA 960 4GB 8gb 1600mhz Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120gb Intel 320 (OS) 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Win 7 64 Viewsonic VX2250-Wm 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic G 550w Gold Lancool PC-K9B Logitech G5 X-Fi Titanium/AT-H700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4690k Asus Z97 Sabertooth mk2 EVGA 970 8gb Kingston 1833mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
128GB Samsung 830 500GB Samsung 840 Evo allota fans but quiet! Win 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311H Rev. A01 Mechanical w/ Cherry Blues NZXT Hale 650w NZXT Phantom - white 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Anker CG100 Steelseries 9HD Sennheiser HD555 
  hide details  
Reply
Why upgrade?
(14 items)
 
Why overclock?!
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 760 ASUS 55i Sabertooth EVGA 960 4GB 8gb 1600mhz Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120gb Intel 320 (OS) 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Win 7 64 Viewsonic VX2250-Wm 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic G 550w Gold Lancool PC-K9B Logitech G5 X-Fi Titanium/AT-H700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4690k Asus Z97 Sabertooth mk2 EVGA 970 8gb Kingston 1833mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
128GB Samsung 830 500GB Samsung 840 Evo allota fans but quiet! Win 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311H Rev. A01 Mechanical w/ Cherry Blues NZXT Hale 650w NZXT Phantom - white 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Anker CG100 Steelseries 9HD Sennheiser HD555 
  hide details  
Reply
post #446 of 569
I would like to see a new video with one monitor and his new Mobo to see GPU usage, on the same map.

His low fps dips still seem way too low. Just going off my system, which has quite a bit less CPU power.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.3Ghz Gigabyte P45-UD3R EVGA GTX 960 SSC G.Skill Pi PC2-8800 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 460a 120GB LG SuperBlu Bluray/HD DVD drive Thermalright Archon Push/Pull corsair H75 (GPU) 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win 8.1 64bit Panasonic 50" G25 Plasma Seasonic X650 Lian Li PC-B25F 
Mouse
Razer Mamba 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9650 @ 4.3Ghz Gigabyte P45-UD3R EVGA GTX 960 SSC G.Skill Pi PC2-8800 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 460a 120GB LG SuperBlu Bluray/HD DVD drive Thermalright Archon Push/Pull corsair H75 (GPU) 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win 8.1 64bit Panasonic 50" G25 Plasma Seasonic X650 Lian Li PC-B25F 
Mouse
Razer Mamba 
  hide details  
Reply
post #447 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by pursuinginsanity View Post
1156 and 1366 are the same generation. The basic arch is identical. The only real difference being lack of QPI and addition of DMI (which is onboard PCIe controller) to 1156.

An 1156 i5 is basically a 1366 i7 with no HT. Benchmarks will show this.
Being basically the same, and the same are two very different things, they may perform similar, but are completely different platform wise. However, we are drifting off topic, lets agree that the 1366 and 1156 were of the same generation, yet different architecture, making the Q9x50 2 generations old.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacklac View Post
I would like to see a new video with one monitor and his new Mobo to see GPU usage, on the same map.

His low fps dips still seem way too low. Just going off my system, which has quite a bit less CPU power.
This. I would like to see the difference as well. It is entirely believable that you would get more performance from a better and newer architecture, however I still find it hard to believe that a Q9x50 will bottleneck a single GPU.
post #448 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
Being basically the same, and the same are two very different things, they may perform similar, but are completely different platform wise. However, we are drifting off topic, lets agree that the 1366 and 1156 were of the same generation, yet different architecture, making the Q9x50 2 generations old.



This. I would like to see the difference as well. It is entirely believable that you would get more performance from a better and newer architecture, however I still find it hard to believe that a Q9x50 will bottleneck a single GPU.
They're not different microarchitecture. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture) this.

1156 i5s and i7s are the same Nehalem cores that comprise 1366 i7s. You can disagree all you want, but the facts are facts.

"I should clear things up before we progress much further. Lynnfield is the codename for mainstream 45nm quad-core Nehalem, while Bloomfield refers to the first Nehalem launched at the end of 2008"

From this http://www.anandtech.com/show/2832 article.

"The Lynnfield core is based on the same Nehalem architecture as the Bloomfield-core Core i7s."

From this http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...d-cpu-review/1 article.
Edited by pursuinginsanity - 4/16/11 at 3:57pm
Why upgrade?
(14 items)
 
Why overclock?!
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 760 ASUS 55i Sabertooth EVGA 960 4GB 8gb 1600mhz Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120gb Intel 320 (OS) 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Win 7 64 Viewsonic VX2250-Wm 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic G 550w Gold Lancool PC-K9B Logitech G5 X-Fi Titanium/AT-H700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4690k Asus Z97 Sabertooth mk2 EVGA 970 8gb Kingston 1833mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
128GB Samsung 830 500GB Samsung 840 Evo allota fans but quiet! Win 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311H Rev. A01 Mechanical w/ Cherry Blues NZXT Hale 650w NZXT Phantom - white 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Anker CG100 Steelseries 9HD Sennheiser HD555 
  hide details  
Reply
Why upgrade?
(14 items)
 
Why overclock?!
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 760 ASUS 55i Sabertooth EVGA 960 4GB 8gb 1600mhz Vengeance 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120gb Intel 320 (OS) 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Win 7 64 Viewsonic VX2250-Wm 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic G 550w Gold Lancool PC-K9B Logitech G5 X-Fi Titanium/AT-H700 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4690k Asus Z97 Sabertooth mk2 EVGA 970 8gb Kingston 1833mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
128GB Samsung 830 500GB Samsung 840 Evo allota fans but quiet! Win 7 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell U2311H Rev. A01 Mechanical w/ Cherry Blues NZXT Hale 650w NZXT Phantom - white 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Anker CG100 Steelseries 9HD Sennheiser HD555 
  hide details  
Reply
post #449 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacklac View Post
I would like to see a new video with one monitor and his new Mobo to see GPU usage, on the same map.

His low fps dips still seem way too low. Just going off my system, which has quite a bit less CPU power.
I've tried a few games and BC2 shows the biggest improvement for the 2600K stock so far (over a Q9650 OC'D). BC2 uses the CPU for culling, rendering, physics, audio, animations, collision, etc. In other games I'm going to assume that mileage may vary.
Edited by EastCoast - 4/16/11 at 4:22pm
post #450 of 569
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
I still find it hard to believe that a Q9x50 will bottleneck a single GPU.
Run 3DMark11 and just run the Combined test!
While the test is running monitor the GPU and CPU usage!
One of them will max out at 99%! With my Q9650@3.8GHz. It was my CPU that maxed out!
But with my SB setup @3.8GHz, it's my GPU that is at 99%
And my CPU is at 50-60%
I Like Smileys :)
(16 items)
 
Sony Vaio 1512
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2600K 4.6GHz Asus P8P67 Pro Bios 3207 MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G Ripjaws-X 16GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
80GB Intel & 128GB 830  2 x WD640 Caviar Black LG DVD-RW Noctua NH-D14  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 HP 64bit Acer 5906x1080 3D Logitech G15 Corsair TX850W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Logitec G700 Razer Goliathus Sharkoon X-Tatic 5.1 Headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel® Core™ i5-3210M Laptop  HD 4000 Corsair Vengeance 8GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 840 250GB DVD Multi Windows 8 15.5 inch display (1366 x 768) 
Keyboard
LED Back lit 
  hide details  
Reply
I Like Smileys :)
(16 items)
 
Sony Vaio 1512
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2600K 4.6GHz Asus P8P67 Pro Bios 3207 MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G Ripjaws-X 16GB 1600MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
80GB Intel & 128GB 830  2 x WD640 Caviar Black LG DVD-RW Noctua NH-D14  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 HP 64bit Acer 5906x1080 3D Logitech G15 Corsair TX850W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Logitec G700 Razer Goliathus Sharkoon X-Tatic 5.1 Headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel® Core™ i5-3210M Laptop  HD 4000 Corsair Vengeance 8GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 840 250GB DVD Multi Windows 8 15.5 inch display (1366 x 768) 
Keyboard
LED Back lit 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Intel CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel CPUs › *PICS* BC2 - VERY LARGE GAINS with i5-2500k upgrade from Q9650 Benchmarks