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Only because the gpu power needed to reach the 50+ fps range at 1080p really isn't possible with current gen single gpu cards.
    
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One question here: I have a Q9550 E0 @ 3.83GHz on a P5Q with 8GB (4x4) Dominator DDR2 ram and a 580GTX 1.5GB ram. Am I loosing something (in FPS) from mine 580 because of my CPU or RAM?
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One question here: I have a Q9550 E0 @ 3.83GHz on a P5Q with 8GB (4x4) Dominator DDR2 ram and a 580GTX 1.5GB ram. Am I loosing something (in FPS) from mine 580 because of my CPU or RAM?
Thanks!

The thread returns! biggrin.gif
^ Not really. Yes, an i5 2500k at 4.2Ghz will better power the GTX580.
No, a Q9550 @ 3.8 will give you enough performance to provide great gameplay.

SLI is a different story but a single card you will be fine.

Hm... looking at the original post of the OP he used the Nvidia chipset, I see better performance on my P45 chipset with my quad @3.6 and my GTX470 @ 800 core. So meh... don't use Nvidia chipsets?
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Sorry if it was a dump question, is that I don't have access to another rig to test and there is difficulty in finding the answers. In this forum for example I read it all and still couldn't be sure about it.
There goes another one rolleyes.gif
Will I benefit somehow if I get a MOBO with SLI 2 x 8 and use a 580GTX with a 9800GTX+ just to run Physx on it?
The question is because I'm thing of change part of my rig and I would like to know if would worth put the 9800 with the 580.
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For 1920x1080 resolution? I'm not sure it will help, the 580 handles physx really well.wouldn't hurt to try.
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Yes. You are losing out by not having a current gen CPU. Not sure where all the idiots in this thread are putting their brains, maybe in their ass.

The Q9550 is still a very good chip, and most well-coded game engines will not get anywhere close to using up 100% of that CPU.

However, many games these days are not well coded. Bad company 2, Starcraft 2, GTA4, I could name many others.

These games have shoddy programming and the devs have used a lot of shortcuts to make the game work. The code in these games is not well optimised, meaning that it takes a lot of CPU power to make the game run.

If your game engine is waiting for the CPU to be done calculating what is happening on screen before sending that frame to the GPU to be rendered, then that is when you see a drop in FPS due to being "CPU Bound". A game which runs badly and requires a huge CPU to run smoothly is often referred to as a CPU bound game.

A Sandy Bridge Core i5-2500k, or even better one of the new Ivy Bridge i5's, should not in theory be "needed" to get a good framerate on a game. There's no reason a decent programmer could not optimise a game engine to work on a single core of an old core 2 duo. However, decent programmers are few and far between these days, and certainly don't seem to work at any of the game studios owned by EA.

The programmers can't be blamed entirely, the publishers often want the game out the door as soon as it runs smoothly on a Dev Rig, and leave the programmers zero time for optimisation. However these Dev Rigs normally have the top of the line CPU and GPU, so many games come out which only really run smoothly on those.

Not to mention that many gamers nowadays want to be included in public beta tests, and many games have a public beta session before they come out. These beta builds of games are even less likely to be optimised, and you will normally require a Dev Rig spec PC if you want to play them smoothly.

Personally, I find the easiest thing is just to buy the very top of the range CPU and a GPU suitable for my monitor's res, then games simply work as intended, even if badly coded.
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Yes. You are losing out by not having a current gen CPU. Not sure where all the idiots in this thread are putting their brains, maybe in their ass.
The Q9550 is still a very good chip, and most well-coded game engines will not get anywhere close to using up 100% of that CPU.
However, many games these days are not well coded. Bad company 2, Starcraft 2, GTA4, I could name many others.
These games have shoddy programming and the devs have used a lot of shortcuts to make the game work. The code in these games is not well optimised, meaning that it takes a lot of CPU power to make the game run.
If your game engine is waiting for the CPU to be done calculating what is happening on screen before sending that frame to the GPU to be rendered, then that is when you see a drop in FPS due to being "CPU Bound". A game which runs badly and requires a huge CPU to run smoothly is often referred to as a CPU bound game.
A Sandy Bridge Core i5-2500k, or even better one of the new Ivy Bridge i5's, should not in theory be "needed" to get a good framerate on a game. There's no reason a decent programmer could not optimise a game engine to work on a single core of an old core 2 duo. However, decent programmers are few and far between these days, and certainly don't seem to work at any of the game studios owned by EA.
The programmers can't be blamed entirely, the publishers often want the game out the door as soon as it runs smoothly on a Dev Rig, and leave the programmers zero time for optimisation. However these Dev Rigs normally have the top of the line CPU and GPU, so many games come out which only really run smoothly on those.
Not to mention that many gamers nowadays want to be included in public beta tests, and many games have a public beta session before they come out. These beta builds of games are even less likely to be optimised, and you will normally require a Dev Rig spec PC if you want to play them smoothly.
Personally, I find the easiest thing is just to buy the very top of the range CPU and a GPU suitable for my monitor's res, then games simply work as intended, even if badly coded.

Jesus Christ. Does this forum not frown upon gravedigging?
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Jesus Christ. Does this forum not frown upon gravedigging?

I thought exactly the same when i seen it said 2011.
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One question here: I have a Q9550 E0 @ 3.83GHz on a P5Q with 8GB (4x4) Dominator DDR2 ram and a 580GTX 1.5GB ram. Am I loosing something (in FPS) from mine 580 because of my CPU or RAM?
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4x4 = 16 :S
 
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