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Originally Posted by mongoloid;12715573 
Those Expressionists may be right up your alley.
The M10's are an excellent choice provided you're not into deep, heavy bass.

Now, is that to say that they don't have adequate bass or that they do not have a lot of bass. I prefer something without overpowering bass. While I do listen to a lot of different kind of music, rap/hip hop/electronic included, I don't really need something to wake up my neighbors. A solid, low rumble to accompany the rest of the sounds to give it a full body is all I really require. Accuracy is more important than how hard it will "thump". The sub will be under my desk.

The Altec set did look rather attractive. I'm a little reluctant to try them, though. Not because they look bad or the reviews I've seen are negative.... but because of that awkward "pod". Nearly everything I've read seems to reference the pod, whether good or bad. While I appreciate controls, I'm not sure one that is such a hot topic would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by candy_van;12715618 
AV-30s...$99.99
JBL sub...$99.99

This Pioneer sub drops to $99 every now and again as well.

I actually took a listen to the AV30s. I was a bit unimpressed. They sounded so muddy. The mid and low end being pushed out the same tiny speaker made the sound feel very awkward and actually LESS clear than other speakers around it. I didn't check to make sure that they bass boost option was off, though. That could have made an impact.

My only question when getting sats and a sub is how to actually set them up properly for usage in a 2.1 system. I assume I'd run the sats through the sub and have the sub hooked to the sound card. Assuming this is the case, do the speakers need to be powered themselves or will the sub be handling the work there?
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Originally Posted by dcloud;12715671 
I eventually discovered the Edifier S330D system. If you can find a pair, I would recommend testing them out. A very solid system. The sound is full of depth, the bass is punchy and sharp instead of boomy. I couldn't be happier with a $140 system.

I will look into this. I appreciate the recommendation.
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Originally Posted by Droogie;12719626 
I still love my Klipsch Promedia 2.1's. 4 years, and they're still crystal clear.

While I don't doubt that your Klipsch speakers are still kicking ass, I have read quite a few reviews that point to build quality and longevity as the bane of the recent series of Pro Media 2.1s. I'd much rather spend a little more and get something that will last me for several years, than spend a little less and get something that will be dead in 6-12 months.

I was an early adopted of the Audigy 2 and it's push to 6.1 sound. I picked up a set of the Creative 6.1 speakers and wired that awkward monstrosity all up and enjoyed it for quite a while. I know that a set beyond 2.1 is an impossibility for me. I am looking for something that fits into my current price point and can fill my needs for a few years. I know it seems like I am demanding a lot from a set of 200 dollar speakers, but with as far as technology has come now... I think I kind of deserve it.
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Originally Posted by AzO;12713815 
Altec Lansing MX6021. Much better high reproduction than the Klipsch ProModia's IMHO. Overall, it's much more balanced than the ProMedias, for some reason I think the quality on the ProMedia 2.1 has been deteriorating over the years. Not the same as the earlier models.

These seem very attractive, though the more I read about them there seem to be a couple issues that continue to crop up. First is a hissing, the second is a humming. Finally, the pod. Though I've already mentioned that.

The hissing and/or humming do concern me a bit. Since you seem to like these, do you own a set and if so, how are they. Do you experience any hissing or humming from them?
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Originally Posted by dextrose;12726781 
These seem very attractive, though the more I read about them there seem to be a couple issues that continue to crop up. First is a hissing, the second is a humming. Finally, the pod. Though I've already mentioned that.

The hissing and/or humming do concern me a bit. Since you seem to like these, do you own a set and if so, how are they. Do you experience any hissing or humming from them?

Many people online don't know what they're talking about when it comes speakers. There are so many variables that affect speakers that they don't know about.

Maybe it has to do with me using a discrete sound card. The only time I hear hissing sound is when my PC is off and my room completely silent, dead silent. Keep in mind my Lian-Li case is already very quiet as it is (silent model). The hissing is virtually non-existent when my PC is on and many of my friends who come over can't even tell if my PC is on or not.

I'm using a $2800 set of home theater 2.1 speakers from Paradigm and the hiss coming from those speakers are more audible than the Altec Lansing's.

You really have to focus in order to hear any hissing sound and my ears are very sensitive. Unless you place your ear right next to the speakers it's impossible to hear any hiss or noise.

As for the pod, I think those people have a high learning curve. I'll put it this way, it'll be easier for you to get used to the pod than getting used to a new TV remote.

I'm giving away my Klipsch to a friend of mine and I'm waiting for Newegg to go on sale so I can pick up another set of the MX6021. I think they're more balanced than the Klipsch.
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This thread is very interesting, as I am in the same position as the OP.

Why haven't I heard more about the Altec Lansing Ultra? People seem to rave about it and it looks sweet.
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Swan M10s

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NHT SuperZero 2.0 ftw. Get a good amp and sound card/DAC and it will be pure win. Get a sub if you want but subs these days can be damn expensive.

Edit - The NHT Superzero's are only $99.99 per set of speakers. Do something like 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 5.1, etc. setup with these inexpensive speakers.
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Swan M10's
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Azo: Nice. Paradigm are very nice.

Same here, been using Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 now for 4 years. The only problems I have had with them is the original controller pod and its plug into the back of the Subwoofer. Mine had a Straight style that was get pushed up against the wall and the pressure killed it. I ordered a replacement (out of warranty), and it has the new L style. Works like a charm.

As for my specific ProMedia 2.1. I noticed that the sound did change overtime as I used them more. Just like my full 7.1 Klipsch Reference series setup.

As for Best Buy testing. Remember, a ton of ppl play with those. So you may have listened to speakers that have been blown, over extened etc. For all brands. Plus, for the Bose presentation. Bose supply's specific equipment to use for those to try to get the best sound from there product. VS the rest are just plugged into a multi output Jack base to a basic CD player.

Overall, theres a ton of good suggestions here for setups.
Personally, I believe you will get the best sound with a proper set of bookshelf speakers, dedicated subwoofer and specific AMP/Reciever for said speakers.

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Originally Posted by Flynny;12744883 
This thread is very interesting, as I am in the same position as the OP.

Why haven't I heard more about the Altec Lansing Ultra? People seem to rave about it and it looks sweet.

It's because people only know what is fed to them, the average person doesn't ask questions. Altec Lansing has a much longer history in producing speakers than Logitech and Creative COMBINED. However Logitech and Creative pours all their money in marketing and flashy advertising, their speakers suck, I guess it isn't too hard to figure out where all the money that was supposed to go into R&D went. rolleyes.gif

The Swan M10's are nice, but they don't match the low frequency response and highs on the Altec Lansing's, IMHO. Then again, some people hear nice speakers once and they won't try anything else.
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Originally Posted by Rebelord;12747668 
Azo: Nice. Paradigm are very nice.

Thanks, the model I'm using is their Signature S2 series with a PDR-80 subwoofer (I know a very sub-par sub paired with one of the best bookshelf's, that was all I could afford at the time).
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As for Best Buy testing....

Best Buy testing is like not testing at all.

The environment isn't suited for acoustics in the first place. What you hear at BB will sound different when you bring them home.

There are no walls surrounding the testing area at BB, when you bring the speakers home and into your room, the sound signature will change significantly as sound tends to deflect off walls, and you'll wonder how come it sound so different compared to when you were at BB.
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Originally Posted by AzO;12751344 
It's because people only know what is fed to them, the average person doesn't ask questions.

Speaking of this, I've been constantly been fed by my friends that the Corsair SP2500 sucks just because it's made by Corsair. I understand they're not known for audio products, but the system has received so many excellent reviews. And it's one of the only systems where you're getting an 8" sub in a sealed sub-box for under $200 (Currently $50 off at Newegg). It also has separate amps for each individual speaker and a nice controller with multiple EQ setting and the ability to change the sub crossover frequency. I don't think anything gives you all that for $200.
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