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according to that article is says a dual core works best lachen.gif

So my e8400 is gonna be totally roxzor right jethro?

lol!
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Originally Posted by Authie;12715560 
So it's my fault that you are blatantly wrong? X58 i7 counterparts to xeons eg i7 970/xeon w3670 do not have any difference in application performance stock-stock. Period. Get over it. Climb a tree I don't care. Don't you have anything better to do than rage your little e-peen fantasy that your cpu is supposedly better?


I'm going to agree with Authie. As stated in previous posts, X Xeons have dual QPI's while W have single QPI's.

The main difference is how much memory throughput and theoretical operation throughput that is available in the X Xeons over the W. The W Xeons are simply higher binned CPU built on the same process as Core i7's.

There's no proof of why an X Series Xeon would lower performance because of having a Dual QPI simply because it doesn't happen.

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=47918

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=47933

Xeon's support ECC Memory while i7's do not and Xeon's have Intel TXT. These are the only differences over i7's.
Edited by LethalRise750 - 3/13/11 at 9:47am
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Another reason to get a Xeon (aside from the binning) is the fact that if you call up Intel with a problem ans say "Ive got a Xeon" they will take you much more seriously. Xeons are a server class CPU, and people who put down the money for one are treated with a great deal of respect at intel. The warranty support seems to be far better because Xeons are Business class rather than consumer class.
I had an issue with my rig at work and called them. The second I said I had a W3530 the guy on the other end was 100% ready to help me and get an RMA out.
Intel knows that Xeons normally go into servers and workstations for businesses and that the longer one of them is down the money money the business looses. Which means they might loose a customer if they dont help fast. I had a similar experience with an i7 930 that a friend owned and the guy on the other end asked endless questions and was kind of a pain in the butt.

Xeons are usually better binned, and always get better support.
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Originally Posted by LethalRise750;12716341 
You stated Xeon's don't make good gaming CPU's... Not getting desparate, just simply pulling your words apart and throwing them back at you. The counterpart Xeon is not listed in that benchmark, so even if that was a "decent" benchmark program your theory is neither proved right or wrong.

Anyways, I already reported him... so I'm done here wink.gif I'll go enjoy my 2600K.

Thanks, I was about to.

Edit: Sigh, I swore I would so I have to as well now.
Edited by Authie - 3/13/11 at 11:14am
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Another reason to get a Xeon (aside from the binning) is the fact that if you call up Intel with a problem ans say "Ive got a Xeon" they will take you much more seriously. Xeons are a server class CPU, and people who put down the money for one are treated with a great deal of respect at intel. The warranty support seems to be far better because Xeons are Business class rather than consumer class.
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Intel knows that Xeons normally go into servers and workstations for businesses and that the longer one of them is down the money money the business looses. Which means they might loose a customer if they dont help fast. I had a similar experience with an i7 930 that a friend owned and the guy on the other end asked endless questions and was kind of a pain in the butt.

Xeons are usually better binned, and always get better support.

Thank you for your informative post, much appreciated.

Speaking of RMA's, just to be sure on this Intel policy; I understand that they will only cover RMA's for boards that are officially supported. I am planning on getting the Asus p6x58d-e for my render nodes. It says it is 6 core ready, does that make it automatically ok, or are there more special requirements?

Edit: For those who don't know, I will be using xeon w3670's.
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Originally Posted by Authie;12716573 
Thank you for your informative post, much appreciated.

Speaking of RMA's, just to be sure on this Intel policy; I understand that they will only cover RMA's for boards that are officially supported. I am planning on getting the Asus p6x58d-e for my render nodes. It says it is 6 core ready, does that make it automatically ok, or are there more special requirements?


According to Asus's site,
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?p_id=gfbkfnyhppw9tdbb

It does support the 980X and 970 natively so I'd guess it should support the W3670 natively as well but I'd verify with Asus beforehand.
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According to Asus's site,
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?p_id=gfbkfnyhppw9tdbb

It does support the 980X and 970 natively so I'd guess it should support the W3670 natively as well but I'd verify with Asus beforehand.


You are right, thanks. tongue.gif Even if it didn't, i'd still use the board though. I just remembered that they don't ask you for your MB receipt, just for the CPU one if I remember correctly. So, basically all I would have to do is say to the person on the phone a MB that is officially supported, along side its serial number. These rules are different from region to region, I hope it works in Europe too.

Edit: I hope it will never come to that. In case I get a fever and decide to get LN2. Bad joke put aside, I'm quite sure that trick should work.
Edited by Authie - 3/13/11 at 11:41am
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Just found a picture of someone running prime 95 with a w3670 @ 4.6ghz on water. Nice temps too. Using 1.479v, with HT, hottest core 59C. Wow.

picture.php?albumid=4007&pictureid=22850

Anyone else having trouble seeing that picture? :/

...For a cpu of this level, there sure seems to be a lack of information about them. I google w3670 overclock and only find one OC'er? Crazy. Probably because they used to cost even more than the i7 970's used to be, eh?
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5 and a half years later, here comes a reply! haha.

I recently got a W3670 on a MSI x58 Pro-E board, and damn this one is a beast indeed. Im so far using a cheap $25 cooler(arctic cooler 7 something), turned off HT for gaming and im on 4.4ghz stable at 1.384 vcore. Insane performance in games which support multicores.

Havent started tuning the uncore frequency yet but its at 3ghz something.. But wow this one is a beast indeed.

Edit: In full load temp peaks at 71c. Higher then intels said max temp but real world usage almost never runs it that hot anyway.
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