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Bought some sleeved NZXT cables for my rig. One problem, I got a 6 pin pcie cable and an 8 pin (what I thought was a pcie) however it's some sort of power extender for the MB with different shaped male and female connectors.

In theory, this cable will work if I modify the connectors as it's just an extender. My question is, has anyone done this? And will it / does it work?
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post #16732 of 27665
Technically you are right: it is an extender = does NOT matter.

In practical terms it is playing with fire.
The 8pin extender you got is probably the 8pin ATX CPU power one.
What is the difficulty in getting it exchanged or buying an additional one?

You will not believe how many times I have seen people getting into a world of hurt when some time later -after having forgotten what they did- go and modify things.......

A new cable is the cheapest insurance you can buy!
     
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NZXT only has 6 pin to 6 + 2 pin adapters. Would that suffice for my 580?
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post #16734 of 27665
It needs one of each. But 6+2=8, they'll do fine
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post #16735 of 27665
Hate to disagree darthjoe: if that was correct, the manufacturer would have put two 6pin PCIe connectors rather than the more expensive 1x6pin plus 1x8pin connectors.

BLAUcopter:
it depends on whether you intend to run the card at full throttle. Calculating that each pin can handle 2Amps (ATX Spec) times 12 Volts = 24 Watts.
Them would be the Watts that you'd be missing.
Just don't run the card at 100% with the extensions on, and you will be fine.
     
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post #16736 of 27665
Quote:
Originally Posted by mru View Post
Hate to disagree darthjoe: if that was correct, the manufacturer would have put two 6pin PCIe connectors rather than the more expensive 1x6pin plus 1x8pin connectors.

BLAUcopter:
it depends on whether you intend to run the card at full throttle. Calculating that each pin can handle 2Amps (ATX Spec) times 12 Volts = 24 Watts.
Them would be the Watts that you'd be missing.
Just don't run the card at 100% with the extensions on, and you will be fine.
So what you're saying is that the 6+2 PCIe cables run 24 watts less than a genuine 8pin PCIe? Makes sense!
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post #16737 of 27665
An 8pin PCIe connector only has two more ground sources than a 6pin PCIe connector.

That's the only difference; though regulations state that a 6pin is only supposed to deliver up to 75w with the 8pin supposed to driver 150w's.

EDIT: Also, ATX Spec only defines the 2A per pin as a recommended standard, but not required.
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post #16738 of 27665
Yeah a 6+2pin IS an 8 pin basically. Just its an 8 pin with a detachable 2 pin if your graphics card needs a six pin instead.
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post #16739 of 27665
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
An 8pin PCIe connector only has two more ground sources than a 6pin PCIe connector.
I should have thought twice before posting!

Tator Tot is, as always, correct.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
That's the only difference; though regulations state that a 6pin is only supposed to deliver up to 75w with the 8pin supposed to driver 150w's.
Those of us who studied electronics discovered the hard way that "a ground is a ground" is the biggest myth taught.......

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
EDIT: Also, ATX Spec only defines the 2A per pin as a recommended standard, but not required.
Also true, but the connector makers Tyco&Amp list 2Amps max per pin...
     
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post #16740 of 27665
If a pin could only take 2A load, then we'd have a lot of burnt pins on our hands.

It depends on the metal used and quality of the construction, but generally that "2A Max" rating is a fluff barrier for protections sake.

On the PCIe 8pin connector, a ground is just a ground. By PCIe Spec it's actually supposed to be 1 12v Vsense wire (to help regulate voltage) and 1 Ground. Though; it's more complicated (internally on the PSU) to do it that way, so they're just grounds. Both leading to the same location (most of the time at least, some notable exceptions like the 2 PSU's in 1 CWT PUC platform.)
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