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It could very well be a controller or sata cable failing. Plugging it into a SATA 2 controller shouldn't affect it at all though as long as the controller is working correctly.
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Yep, if the drive worked perfectly in another computer, then it's most likely your SATA controller has fried. RMA the motherboard if it's still in warranty (should be, it's not that old).
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post #13 of 38
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Yep, if the drive worked perfectly in another computer, then it's most likely your SATA controller has fried. RMA the motherboard if it's still in warranty (should be, it's not that old).
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It could very well be a controller or sata cable failing. Plugging it into a SATA 2 controller shouldn't affect it at all though as long as the controller is working correctly.
Well, all the SATA ports are working properly, and i tried it on SATA 6Gb/s ports as well, AND the SATA 3Gb/s port that runs off another controller, and i still experience the same problem, but could it be the controller on the HDD itself? like the one on the PCB behind the HDD
    
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Anything is possible at this point. That is way error keeps asking you to post your GSmartControl results.
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Anything is possible at this point. That is way error keeps asking you to post your GSmartControl results.
im having trouble finding what to download and how to use it >.<
also i may post several days late, due to the fact that im doing a lot of other work, and this is just my spare time im throwing at to learn more =P
    
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Go here, scroll down to the Windows version, download the installer version, install it, then run it. Right click on the drive in question and select run tests.

I'm subscribed to the thread so whenever you do post I will know about it.
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Well i got the SMART Data... sorta...

at first it didnt pick up the disk, so i turned off the drive for a few seconds, then plugged it back in, then it rescans and finds an unknown device 0.o so i repositioned the drive PCB down and it picked up the drive, i tried to run tests but they failed, and then i tried to view
details and then igot the fail again, this was the message in both cases


smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-mingw32-win7(64)-sp1] (sf-win32-5.39.1-1)

Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net



Smartctl: Device Read Identity Failed (not an ATA/ATAPI device)



A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
    
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Ok i got the drive to work, so ill go ahead and post SMART DATA and some screen shots, it just worked all of a sudden
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smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i686-pc-mingw32-win7(64)-sp1] (sf-win32-5.39.1-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 and 7200.7 Plus family
Device Model: ST3160023AS
Serial Number: 3MT0AA4H
Firmware Version: 3.40
User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 6
ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2
Local Time is: Wed Mar 30 18:06:40 2011 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
Enabled status cached by OS, trying SMART RETURN STATUS cmd.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82)Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0)The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 430) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003)Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01)Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 69) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 047 041 006 Pre-fail Always - 89462767
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0002 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0033 100 100 020 Pre-fail Always - 24
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 096 096 036 Pre-fail Always - 175
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 253 030 Pre-fail Always - 722405
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 10
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0033 100 100 020 Pre-fail Always - 24
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 033 040 000 Old_age Always - 33 (0 19 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 047 041 000 Old_age Always - 89462767
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 094 094 000 Old_age Always - 124
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 094 094 000 Old_age Offline - 124
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0
202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 1143 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 1143 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10 hours (0 days + 10 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 18 18 08 00 40 Error: UNC 24 sectors at LBA = 0x00000818 = 2072

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:01.988 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:45.371 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:40.548 READ DMA EXT

Error 1142 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10 hours (0 days + 10 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 18 18 08 00 40 Error: UNC 24 sectors at LBA = 0x00000818 = 2072

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:01.988 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:07:57.207 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:40.548 READ DMA EXT

Error 1141 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10 hours (0 days + 10 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 18 18 08 00 40 Error: UNC 24 sectors at LBA = 0x00000818 = 2072

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:01.988 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:07:57.207 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:07:52.562 READ DMA EXT

Error 1140 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10 hours (0 days + 10 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 18 18 08 00 40 Error: UNC 24 sectors at LBA = 0x00000818 = 2072

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:01.988 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:07:57.207 READ DMA EXT
25 00 04 40 08 00 40 00 00:07:52.562 READ DMA EXT

Error 1139 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10 hours (0 days + 10 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 18 18 08 00 40 Error: UNC 24 sectors at LBA = 0x00000818 = 2072

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:06.689 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:08:01.988 READ DMA EXT
25 00 04 40 08 00 40 00 00:07:57.207 READ DMA EXT
25 00 20 00 08 00 40 00 00:07:52.562 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

_________________________________
Pictures in next post, i assume that the GSmartControl Output is the SMART DATA, but just in case ill post some screenies, the same data was found in the Error Log,
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That data is sufficient. Your drive is dying a horribly painful death and is taking data with it. If you haven't already recovered anything important, do so NOW and RMA the drive.

3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0002 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 0
Zero spin-up time? The only thing I can make of that is that the drive completely failed to spin up. It could also be the drive misreporting the data. Either way it is a concern.

5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 096 096 036 Pre-fail Always - 175
The drive has already begun reallocating bad sectors into the spare area, which means parts of the magnetic surface are already failing.

197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 094 094 000 Old_age Always - 124
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 094 094 000 Old_age Offline - 124
Worst of all, 124 sectors were totally unsalvageable. Whatever data was in them is likely lost forever.

I suspect that in addition to the drive dying, you probably ALSO have a cable or controller issue with your motherboard, though I re-read the thread and I still can't be sure.

EDIT: I suggest you do any further work on this drive from a second computer with a known-good cable and controller.

This drive is a good candidate for SpinRite, in the event you have trouble reading data from it from a second computer.
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That data is sufficient. Your drive is dying a horribly painful death and is taking data with it. If you haven't already recovered anything important, do so NOW and RMA the drive.

3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0002 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 0
Zero spin-up time? The only thing I can make of that is that the drive completely failed to spin up.

5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 096 096 036 Pre-fail Always - 175
The drive has already begun reallocating bad sectors into the spare area, which means parts of the magnetic surface are already failing.

197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 094 094 000 Old_age Always - 124
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 094 094 000 Old_age Offline - 124
Worst of all, 124 sectors were totally unsalvageable. Whatever data was in them is likely lost forever.

I suspect that in addition to the drive dying, you probably ALSO have a cable or controller issue with your motherboard, though I re-read the thread and I still can't be sure.
Cables are fine i swapped with the one on my Caviar Green drive, and connected a spare cable to my Caviar Green, and the controller was all check and go within a week of buying the board, when you 14 and you go buy 1800 dollars worth of hardware, you do like to make sure everything is running nice and nifty, before the return date is hit =P i found some bad OCz RAM and the guys at the store said it was better to get it RMA so i did =P and i got a faster pair in the end =D

as for the DATA on the drive, i could care less about it, i just wanted to use the drive as a storage drive for my server that im building, but realizing the drive is dying, i wont even bother attempting to fix it, do you think i should RMA? or would it be better just to buy a new drive?

also, the drive IS spinning up, i can feel the vibrations of it, if the spindle was spinning without the platters somehow, i would suspect it would make a horrible sound >.<

and parts of the magnetic surface is failing? ... wow... thats just hardcore =P
and the unsalvageable sectors.... oh my.. what could possible be the cause of that? is that also part of the platter failiure?

also, feel free to see the screenies of the other tabs on the info i managed to wrestle out of the drive here: http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/...clocker_-OCN-/

oh and can you go into the Link in my sig? the one on the Caviar Green VS Caviar Black, Apparently my drives arn't performing as fast as they should be =P
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