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post #151 of 275
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Originally Posted by justarealguy View Post
Yuck. Bandwidth caps are never good and slow down the internets' progress.

150GB is a pitiful amount per month. I just checked my logs and I used a little over 230GB.





The problem is that most people don't use that much bandwidth. My grandparents used a whopping 350MB last month, and I'm rather certain 200MB was Windows Updates that I installed for them.

When you have a majority of people using so little, the people who cost you a lot of money are the enemy.
Sorry it doesn't work that way. People who download lots already pay for a faster portion of the data pipe and the price of a gigabyte less than a cent. They are already making tones of profit, all they need to worry about is paying off their infrastructure which they never upgrade anyway.

They are not doing this to declare war on high down-loaders, thats just an excuse. The real reason for caps is to catch the majority of people off guard with overage charges because they don't know that netflix and youtube take up lots of data.
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post #152 of 275
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Originally Posted by Phalanx1 View Post
Care to enlighten us on the flawless and homogenous continent that is Europe? Specifically, your country of residence.
Proper competion along with government subsidies and well to be honest, real freedom.

I might get banned but here it goes, Europeans are not stupid, as in absolute F-word morons. We know what we want and we know how to get it, while americans just suck up the lies like promises from a dead beat father.
Internet infrastructure is expensive in towns not on the countryside. You're getting screwed like a red district employee.
 
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post #153 of 275
wow only reason im staying with them is because of my $20 6mbit connection...and its crap..disconnect on good days at least twice a day and on bads over 50 LOL.......looked at comcast and they got a promotion for new users.....considering....
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post #154 of 275
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Originally Posted by Phalanx1 View Post
Care to enlighten us on the flawless and homogenous continent that is Europe? Specifically, your country of residence.
Since this is a topic about internet getting capped, I think it would be fairly obvious what I'm on about? Posted from my 60mb/s unlimited connection? It wasn't meant as an insult to americans... not sure why your response is so aggressive. Everyone in my country has access to 20mb/s (and you get speeds you pay for), if your in a rural town then you can't get access to fiber-speed internet (20-120mb/s).
Oh, did I mention I get free access to binary usenet from my ISP? My country btw is the Netherlands, by no means a perfect country, but certainly fairing well in the internet sector.

also
AT&T saying a minority uses high bandwidth, I read that as they are already ripping off the majority then, and making more then enough profit to cater for the minority but noooo, lets add caps.
Edited by .:hybrid:. - 3/14/11 at 12:27pm
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post #155 of 275
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Proper competion along with government subsidies and well to be honest, real freedom.

I might get banned but here it goes, Europeans are not stupid, as in absolute F-word morons. We know what we want and we know how to get it, while americans just suck up the lies like promises from a dead beat father.
Internet infrastructure is expensive in towns not on the countryside. You're getting screwed like a red district employee.
Thanks for the info. I took a screenshot of your post so I can refer back when it gets deleted.
post #156 of 275
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Oh, I absolutely agree--there are obvious problems when it comes down to the fact that the person paying for the net access, and hence the data, is not always able to "choose" what data is being downloaded/uploaded. At that point, it's entirely unfair for an ISP to meter bandwidth without, at the same time, taking measures to prevent "junk" from funneling through a customer's connection. However, I do think that 250GB, for even the moderate user (which is probably greater than 95% of the population) is still more than enough. Not that I'm defending it, but it's better than saying, "here's 10GB, sorry that half of it will be traffic that you will have no say of whether it occurs or not." It's not fair, just less unfair...
These are very real issues that they will not have any answers for. I think it is also a sham that they don't have a way of checking your usage, and I mean free and open, not having to log onto your billing account with special passwords and stuff. Like something open that you could have a Firefox plug-in for.

That aside, they really need to come out clean on the cost per GB. I mean, if it is 2 or three cents a GB - that is a much different playing field than the $2-3 they want to charge per GB. I also think that if they want to meter the usage - then they better slice down the monthly fee. Like if it was $7 per month for the connection, and 10 cents per GB - that would be entirely fair and justifiable. But we all know it will be $60 per month, and $2 per GB - which will take us right out of the picture.

I don't agree with VOIP - it is a waste of the network when there is an entirely adequate POTS and Cellular system already in place. Much of the problems are caused by VOIP, because the networks can't handle it, but it is a "selling point" that the ISPs use; so it is easier to lay the blame on the nebulous "pirates", "torrents", "netflix", and so on. We wouldn't need VOIP if the networks were converted to Fiber Optic. In fact, Fiber Optic would bring about much lower costs per GB, and more competition to drive the pricing down.

Perhaps even worse than metering is the fact that we have run out of address space, with little or no push towards interim solutions like IPv6, and no development of any long term solution.
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I don't agree with VOIP - it is a waste of the network when there is an entirely adequate POTS and Cellular system already in place.
I disagree here, VOIP is a godsend, and much cheaper then the other networks. (free)
An average video call is 500kbps / 500kbps while just normal call is 100kbps / 100kbps. (recommend speeds)

If your isp can't handle that its got some serious issues.

https://support.skype.com/en-us/faq/...irstPage=false

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We wouldn't need VOIP if the networks were converted to Fiber Optic.
Not sure what your trying to say here? Fiber Optic would just allow VOIP to perform even better...
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Hmm, If I get free Internet from ATT, I wonder if they'll charge me for using over 250GB. I'm certain I do. I prolly use a few gb on a slow day and 10-15 or more on a heavy one.
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post #159 of 275
So fed up with all the BS the US ISPs give us. we pay MORE Money for Poorer service than HALF the other developed nations in the world. Wake up people, its time we DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!

For too long we have turned our backs to let the government fix our problems, and has it worked? No, Corporations have too much money to counteract the government with (the same $$$ they reap from us). The only way we can fix this crap is if we Face it and work together to do it ourselves.
post #160 of 275
The only thing that should be capped is Internet prices. $20 a month TOPS, and I want speeds Upwards of 4 MEGABYTES/s.

Here's a concept, Pay for the speed you actually get.
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