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post #1 of 11
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There is enough room for a Double Flow (Not X) 2x 140mm RAD in both Thickness's but I've heard the thick versions have bad airflow and don't work that well.

So brings me to generally ignoring how thick it will be *roughly*

I was wondering what would be an ideal set up?

I can't double 2x 140mm Rads but I can Double 2x 120mm Rads fairly easily.

For Double I mean, RAD, Intake Fans, RAD.

I've seen a pic of this type of set up just not sure how well it works, Also possibility to do,

RAD, FAN, RAD, FAN.

This will be cooling, a 1 - 2 GPU, Heavily OC'd CPU and thats it with a Swifttech MPC655, no Res, in a closed loop.


Just not sure if these sandwich configs work ok or?

or at least work better then a double wide RAD.
Edited by Neokolzia - 3/13/11 at 4:05pm
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post #2 of 11
The problem is the second rad in the line gets horrible airflow and you are better off finding space for another rad somewhere else.
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post #3 of 11
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Ya I figured, what about the double wide's? say Black Ice Extreme series? I've seen mixed reviews about them mostly bad. Same issue?
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post #4 of 11
Yeah running sandwiched rads even if you have fan/rad/fan/rad/fan still gives terrible temps normally because the hot air from the first blows into the 2nd and the 2nd isn't able to cool as efficiently due to the increased ambient heat it is pulling from the first. I suppose if that is your only option you could go fan/rad/fan/rad/fan where the 2nd rad is where the water first goes into and then from the 2nd rad run a hose to the first rad that way the hottest rad is in back and the cooler 2nd rad is in front but I am pretty sure that the temps in the loop will come to an equilibrium which will be much higher than 2 separate rads. Just a thought.

Edit: The BI GTX rads are good but you need high flow fans to really take advantage of them.
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post #5 of 11
Maybe this image can help you out, but overall sandwich radiator between fans aren't the most efficiency way.


This image show the stack radiator actually perform worse than a single radiator version.


Is best to separate the two radiator so the airflow will be more optimize.
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post #6 of 11
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Alright that gives me a good idea, I'll likely try and keep to the thin rads and see where I can I stick another rad, just not sure if there is going to be room to add any exhaust rads unfortunety, so I'll have to see what I can do.

Reason why I ask, I recumbobled my case set up, making it look much more like a conventional case, and this gives it a front bay for intake, but not much room due to PSU in rear for exhaust.


The Push pull set up is tempting though since it does yield pretty well.
Edited by Neokolzia - 3/13/11 at 4:28pm
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post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by prtuc2 View Post
Maybe this image can help you out, but overall sandwich radiator between fans aren't the most efficiency way.
Is best to separate the two radiator so the airflow will be more optimize.
Do you have the link to these tests?
 
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Originally Posted by mdatmo View Post
Do you have the link to these tests?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=220874

http://skinneelabs.com/triple-radiator-comparison-v2/4/

And if you want to read more check out Martin Lab's as well http://martinsliquidlab.petrastech.com/.
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Originally Posted by mdatmo View Post
Do you have the link to these tests?
He posted those graphs and thermodynamically it makes since that in a sandwiched rad setup that you get diminishing returns and each addition rad you add due to the ambient air getting hotter and hotter as it passes through each rad.
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post #10 of 11
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I think I figured out a compromise, going to still kinda stack the rads but making a custom shroud to draw from the bottom of the case, this is only going to hold a single 140 RAD but as long as the shroud works should be perfect.

Giving me a double 140 and a single 140, which should be enough to cool my look given they are all intake rads.
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