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Thanks Sandman

yeah i stated that earlier in this post that, that is one thing i haven't yet done that i knew of. Only reason why i didn't is because i hate doing it. Makes me so scared that I'm going to mess it up. if i do, how do i reset it on this mobo specifically?

Attachment 200056 Thats what it looks like for me.
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Thanks Sandman

yeah i stated that earlier in this post that, that is one thing i haven't yet done that i knew of. Only reason why i didn't is because i hate doing it. Makes me so scared that I'm going to mess it up. if i do, how do i reset it on this mobo specifically?

Attachment 200056 Thats what it looks like for me.
That looks like it should.

It should be the manual as to how to reset it. I'm not sure on your board, mine is different I'm sure.

It is scary after reading all the warnings lol. It's really no big deal. Just be sure to use the easy flash method and have your flash drive formatted to FAT32 with the new bios file unzipped (if it comes that way) your bios will check it before it installs it. Read the manual and follow direction in there, just don't turn off the power till after it finishes.

Depending how far behind your current version is it usually makes things a lot nicer to deal with and more stable.
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Attachment 200058




See the old file looks like its 1703

where as the "new" is 1456? the website (asus.com) have the number go up by date added to the site so is it lower or am i miss understanding something?

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=eCWbkolMf0DOW0IV
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See the old file looks like its 1703

where as the "new" is 1456? the website (asus.com) have the number go up by date added to the site so is it lower or am i miss understanding something?

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=eCWbkolMf0DOW0IV
Sorry to take so long this site just got weird as far as letting me login lol.

Looks like you're just confused, I went to Asus site and the latest version is 1703 check the snip below. I couldn't read your attachment, wasn't big enough.

Be sure to go to site and then under support/downloads/bios etc and pick the OS.

You must currently have the older one 1453 or whatever it is? Never use the Asus utility to check. CPUZ under "MAINBOARD" will show your current version. Same with downloading the new version DL it yourself directly from site, unpack if necessary and remember to format your flash drive to FAT32 if it isn't already, than drag new version into flash drive and go from there using the EZ Flash 2.
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do a bios update and a bit of tad volts on memory could help..
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I agree on checking what version your BIOS is. Btw...It's Jon, lol
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Oh ok, i knew the picture was gonna be hard to read, i Can read it on my monitor though. sorry about that.On CPUZ it actually says i have the 1703 version. 11/16/2010 is my date for it. So i MUST have the newest updated BIOS shipped on the board to me?

Now what... lol

sandman ill remember those steps, and i was thinking about that today actually so funny u answered my question hehe.

But should i touch my voltage? im not qualified to do that Lulz. And do you other ppl agree on that or what do i do?
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I'd say time to run a few tests.

See if you can pass maybe 30-60 minutes of prime95. Make sure you dl the vision that matches your OS (32 or 64 bit). (disable Cool & Quite for now) and notice where vcore runs at using cpuz as well as cpu socket temp with PC Probe while running tests.

Have you set the bios with LLC as mentioned in one of the previous post? This may also be a factor. Let us know how their set.

Just as a simple guide, if you get a BSOD this usually means a lack of Vcore, (Vcore most likely not the case at this point)
If you get "worker has failed" error that usually means you'll need a slight bump of either CPU/NB voltage or Dram voltage. My first guess would be CPU/NB voltage with the 8 GBs of ram. Start with 1.2v, if it fails try 1.25, than 1.275v and retest. Max is 1.45v but you won't need that much till after you increase the NB Freq later on. If this doesn't solve the issue return it to 1.2v and than try raising the dram voltage with even smaller increases with short tests in between, shouldn't need more than 1.55v at this point.

If neither of these help time to run some Memtest86. Remove one stick and test for an hour. If it passes run other stick same way. Than report back with snips of cpuz showing both the cpu tab and the memory tab again.
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Ok i just did the stresstest. and my 6th window failed within 1 minute of me starting it, it says to locate stress.txt but there is no such file. Could be because my stresstest froze (not bluescreened this time actually) exactly 10 mins into it.

Unless this is what they meant, i went poking and prodding for the damn file.

[Wed Mar 16 21:47:48 2011]
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 9446370230403072, expected: 2851756471154623
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
[Wed Mar 16 22:38:45 2011]
Compare your results to other computers at http://www.mersenne.org/report_benchmarks
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
CPU speed: 3210.80 MHz, 6 cores
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, Prefetch, 3DNow!, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 512 KB, L3 cache size: 6 MB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 48
L2 TLBS: 512
Prime95 64-bit version 25.11, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 768K FFT length: 11.080 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 13.445 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 15.194 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 19.273 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 23.333 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 28.376 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 31.845 ms.


I dont know its probably not it.

anyway i wrote down the numbers from my probe since my computer conveniently froze with me being able to take my time and write it down Lulz!

v.core - 1.34v
+3.3 - 3.38v
+5 - 5.04v
+12 - 12.17v
cpu - 63c
Mb - 27c
cpu fan - 3341 Rpm

The last bit off stuff you advised me on i have to say i dont understand.

treat me like im stupid b/c i dont know any of this (first time) and just walk me through step by step..

Thanks yet again for taking your time with me!

I feel like i should take pictures of my BIOS settings or something it FEELS like its somethign wrong with how my graphic card (integrated) is working with my discrete card. I have never dealt with that before, should i set it to UMA+SIDE or something instead of off? also, i may have not uninstalled the old graphic card settings properly would that interfere if it was? if so how can i check?

Also the graphic card port arrangement i sent u, does that look like thats the correct order as well?

Sorry for a lot of into, thanks again
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Ok i just did the stresstest. and my 6th window failed within 1 minute of me starting it, it says to locate stress.txt but there is no such file. Could be because my stresstest froze (not bluescreened this time actually) exactly 10 mins into it.

Unless this is what they meant, i went poking and prodding for the damn file.

[Wed Mar 16 21:47:48 2011]
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 9446370230403072, expected: 2851756471154623
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
[Wed Mar 16 22:38:45 2011]
Compare your results to other computers at http://www.mersenne.org/report_benchmarks
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CPU speed: 3210.80 MHz, 6 cores
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, Prefetch, 3DNow!, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 512 KB, L3 cache size: 6 MB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 48
L2 TLBS: 512
Prime95 64-bit version 25.11, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 768K FFT length: 11.080 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 13.445 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 15.194 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 19.273 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 23.333 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 28.376 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 31.845 ms.


I dont know its probably not it.

anyway i wrote down the numbers from my probe since my computer conveniently froze with me being able to take my time and write it down Lulz!

v.core - 1.34v
+3.3 - 3.38v
+5 - 5.04v
+12 - 12.17v
cpu - 63c
Mb - 27c
cpu fan - 3341 Rpm

The last bit off stuff you advised me on i have to say i dont understand.

treat me like im stupid b/c i dont know any of this (first time) and just walk me through step by step..

Thanks yet again for taking your time with me!

I feel like i should take pictures of my BIOS settings or something it FEELS like its somethign wrong with how my graphic card (integrated) is working with my discrete card. I have never dealt with that before, should i set it to UMA+SIDE or something instead of off? also, i may have not uninstalled the old graphic card settings properly would that interfere if it was? if so how can i check?

Also the graphic card port arrangement i sent u, does that look like thats the correct order as well?

Sorry for a lot of into, thanks again
First, please don't ever feel stupid, just inexperienced ok?

I see your CPU temp is running at 63c with stock settings? That's very high for stock cpu settings, and needs to be addressed. check air flow and make sure fans are running at 100%. If they are you may need to re-seat the CPU Cooler with a better TIM (Thermal Induction Material such as Arctic Silver 5) and get that down a bit. Any thing past 55c is known to cause instability by itself. Look into this issue first. Maybe you need more case fans, or higher cfm fans for better air flow through the case.

Next I'll try to explain, what you need to do is figure out one issue at a time. That's why I think going through the stress test would be a good place to start. It will help determine if your system is stable. Running prime95 will help show this. So lets try to work through just this part for starters. Keep a close eye on the cpu socket temp and get under 55c for stock settings.

From what I've read in this post you said prime95 failed in one window (worker) which is a sign of instability probably caused from having the 8GBs of memory. This is not a bad thing, (the 8 GBs I mean) it just needs to addressed because most bios setting on auto may not support this much ram.
As I was thinking to help see what your system wants at this point it's acting as though there is not enough CPU/NB voltage to support the amount of ram you have installed.

Look back at one of the previous posts and you'll see I gave you this info,
If prime fails showing "worker has failed" this is usually caused from a lack of CPU/NB voltage or maybe Dram voltage. Am I correct in assuming the CPU/NB voltage setting in your bios is still on auto? If it is change it in bios so it shows 1.25v. Try running prime95 again and see if it goes further into the test without failing. If it fails again, try raising it to 1.275v, retest, if it fails raise it again to 1.3v get the idea? You shouldn't need much more than 1.325v before we know that this is not the issue. If after raising it you're still failing test, then you'll have to return it to 1.25v and try increasing the Dram voltage instead.

Dram voltage is already set to manufacture spec correct? So just like before give it a slight increase of .01 and repeat test just like before. Keep increasing by .01 each time you have a failure in prime till you reach a total of .05v increase from stock setting. If after this you still can't pass test that will tell us we need to try something else. It's basically trail and error here ok? But this will rule out the easy stuff as far as testing for stability. This will be the first step in a process of elimination to find the actual cause of the issue.

I will admit I am not by any means an expert with the graphics issues you read about and that's really not in my line of experience yet lol (thank goodness for me haven't had to deal with it). But these steps should help others with the experience in this area. I highly doubt a graphics issue will cause the BSOD like you are experiencing, it may be a problem, but should act differently. Once again that's why we're running a simple stress test to show the system is at least stable with at near stock bios settings, and if there is a problem with the graphics it will show again later on. As far as I know when you install a discrete card that normally disables the onboard which should be enough.

Read one of the previous posts again and see that you have the CPU Load Line Calibration set as recommended in the bios to "Full", "Enabled", or "100%" whichever option you have. This will also help stability.
Hope this help you through this PITA time your currently having. If you'd rather you can always feel free to PM me if that would be of any help, or even go with a IM of some sort too if you like as it may be faster, your call.

Good luck and let us know if you need more help.
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