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athlon II x4 640 @ 3.0ghz vs phenom II 560 x2 @ 3.3ghz

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I can't decide between the 2. Do not suggest the phenom and tell me to unlock the cores or overclock I'm talking all stock here. The phenom has a l3 chache but I am not so sure it makes a huge diff. The athlon is a quad which as newer games come out use more cores. Which will I not need to upgrade as soon and which will give me better fps?
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If you gonna spend $100 hoping to unlock the other two cores why don't you just buy this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808
It's better than both cpus your looking at.

Even this is better:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103824
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Which games do you play? Only some games will see a difference between the Athlon II and Phenom II.
 
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post #4 of 18
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Which games do you play? Only some games will see a difference between the Athlon II and Phenom II.
A variety, so would you say their fairly equal (on average)? Mostly fps some racing and a handful of 3rd person free roamers.
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If you gonna spend $100 hoping to unlock the other two cores why don't you just buy this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103808
It's better than both cpus your looking at.

Even this is better:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103824
I've got a budget.
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post #6 of 18
Check out this thread: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/89...enom-ii-4.html

It looks like the general consensus is that the Phenom IIs are definitely faster than the Athlon IIs, but not by much. If price is not an issue, get the Phenom II. If it is, get the Athlon II. That's my suggestion anyway.

EDIT If it helps, I went from a Phenom II X3 720 () to my Athlon II X4 620 and notice very little to no difference.
Edited by onoz - 3/13/11 at 10:53pm
 
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get the quad if you can afford it for gaming. end of story
    
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post #8 of 18
Between those two, get the Athlon II 640, you will benefit more from two extra cores than the L3 cache.
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post #9 of 18
I would rather have 6 mb. L3 Cache than have four cores with no L3 cache.

Get the X 2 Black with the 6 mb of L3 Cache. It does make a difference and you may be able to unlock it with the right board but if you don't that L3 Cache will make the most difference.
    
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I would rather have 6 mb. L3 Cache than have four cores with no L3 cache.

Get the X 2 Black with the 6 mb of L3 Cache. It does make a difference and you may be able to unlock it with the right board but if you don't that L3 Cache will make the most difference.
The chance of unlocking should never be considered during a purchase. If it doesn't unlock, it'll be that much worse than a native quad cpu.

This isn't like the 6950 ---> 6970 scenario where it seems like more than half unlock. I've seen more unlock failures than success with the Phenom II 550/555/560s.
Edited by onoz - 3/13/11 at 11:04pm
 
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