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I have to admit I am very dissapointed with ATI now. my 4 series cards were a dream and so great. However upgrading to this 5870 a year ago has been the worst thing iv ever done IMO. Yep I can pretty much say I will be going green next update. I have tried giving AMD time and have been patient. But enough is enough. Im sick of the same old BS driver updates not fixing anything and only breaking more stuff.
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I have to admit I am very dissapointed with ATI now. my 4 series cards were a dream and so great. However upgrading to this 5870 a year ago has been the worst thing iv ever done IMO. Yep I can pretty much say I will be going green next update. I have tried giving AMD time and have been patient. But enough is enough. Im sick of the same old BS driver updates not fixing anything and only breaking more stuff.
eh? HD5870 is my fav card in years, and I came from sli 275s
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I love my 5770s and do not have any driver issues. Using 11.2 right now. Work great. I wish my board could do trifire and I would add another 5770 lol. I find most issues have to deal with people using driver sweeper or some such program. I just install ATI drivers on top of each other. Also I was have stuttering issues at one point, and figured out that it was the overclock on my CPU that was causing issues. People need to try stock clocks on everything before blaming drivers.
   
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Oh man...

All these stories crack me up. There is no way Nvidia or ATI can account for the numerous ways we have changed / messed up our system.

People switching from Nvidia to ATI or ATI to Nvidia, if you don't uninstall correctly you will probably have issues. That doesn't mean it driver issues.

Do none of you know how to reformat? Seriously 100% of these stories sound like conflicts with preexisting system config or tweaks to your system.

Here's an example of a driver issue (Or developer issue really.)
When I have a 2nd monitor turned on I get microstuttering in league of legends. With VYSNC on the FPS is 60 except when I scroll across the map. Then it drops to 45. This is constant and repeatable. When I turn the 2nd monitor off this goes away.

This is more then likely a crossfire and/or driver issue. Although I really blame the developers for poor coding, not AMD in this case.

I've reinstalled windows 2x in the last couple of weeks for various reasons, the same issues happen right after clean install.

Here's an example of user error:
I gave my brother my AMD motherboard and a geforce 8800. He ran the SLI hack to attempt to run a 8800 GT / GTS. Obviously this did not work. He deleted the SLI Hack boot version. I sold him 6950. Without uninstalling the Nvidia drivers or SLI hack he installed the 6950. Now he has BSOD in windows AND safe mode. (Once again on the non-sli hack windows version.)

So, was it the SLI-hack or the Nvidia drivers? Could be either. Anyways, after reformatting it works perfect.


Also take into consideration some people go for years without reformatting. AND THEY FORGET THE TWEAKS THEY USED. Then they install new hardware and instantly cry "driver problems" when in reality they just have forgotten the massive amount of crap they have done to their system which is then conflicting.

Morale: Stop being scrubs and blaming it on drivers.
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eh? HD5870 is my fav card in years, and I came from sli 275s
Nothing but a horrid driver experience with the 5870 coming from xfire 4850's that i had. I was forced to sit on 10.4 drivers until my first 5870 died because of the piss poor ATI drivers. And here I am with a different card, and every driver revisions still gives me certain graphical glitches. But I pop in my old 9600gso and everything is right as rain...
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Oh man...

People switching from Nvidia to ATI or ATI to Nvidia, if you don't uninstall correctly you will probably have issues. That doesn't mean it driver issues.

Do none of you know how to reformat? Seriously 100% of these stories sound like conflicts with preexisting system config or tweaks to your system.

Also take into consideration some people go for years without reformatting. AND THEY FORGET THE TWEAKS THEY USED. Then they install new hardware and instantly cry "driver problems" when in reality they just have forgotten the massive amount of crap they have done to their system which is then conflicting.

Morale: Stop being scrubs and blaming it on drivers.
^^ All of this. ~99% of the time it's user error, apathy, laziness or confusion.
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Oh man...

All these stories crack me up. There is no way Nvidia or ATI can account for the numerous ways we have changed / messed up our system.

People switching from Nvidia to ATI or ATI to Nvidia, if you don't uninstall correctly you will probably have issues. That doesn't mean it driver issues.

Do none of you know how to reformat? Seriously 100% of these stories sound like conflicts with preexisting system config or tweaks to your system.

Here's an example of a driver issue (Or developer issue really.)
When I have a 2nd monitor turned on I get microstuttering in league of legends. With VYSNC on the FPS is 60 except when I scroll across the map. Then it drops to 45. This is constant and repeatable. When I turn the 2nd monitor off this goes away.

This is more then likely a crossfire and/or driver issue. Although I really blame the developers for poor coding, not AMD in this case.

I've reinstalled windows 2x in the last couple of weeks for various reasons, the same issues happen right after clean install.

Here's an example of user error:
I gave my brother my AMD motherboard and a geforce 8800. He ran the SLI hack to attempt to run a 8800 GT / GTS. Obviously this did not work. He deleted the SLI Hack boot version. I sold him 6950. Without uninstalling the Nvidia drivers or SLI hack he installed the 6950. Now he has BSOD in windows AND safe mode. (Once again on the non-sli hack windows version.)

So, was it the SLI-hack or the Nvidia drivers? Could be either. Anyways, after reformatting it works perfect.


Also take into consideration some people go for years without reformatting. AND THEY FORGET THE TWEAKS THEY USED. Then they install new hardware and instantly cry "driver problems" when in reality they just have forgotten the massive amount of crap they have done to their system which is then conflicting.

Morale: Stop being scrubs and blaming it on drivers.
Pfftt... I reformatted SEVERAL times with different drivers, some worked better than others but every single driver gave me some issues. TBH I dont know what drivers im currently on, I just gave up...

Today im going to bestbuy and using my gift card from rooms to go, buying a GTX 580 instead of a crappy 50" tv and being done with it. I could easily go back to my CF 4870's (worked like a dream) but they have waterblocks on them and it would be pointless.

WTS: ASUS 5970
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Oh man...

All these stories crack me up. There is no way Nvidia or ATI can account for the numerous ways we have changed / messed up our system.

People switching from Nvidia to ATI or ATI to Nvidia, if you don't uninstall correctly you will probably have issues. That doesn't mean it driver issues.

Do none of you know how to reformat? Seriously 100% of these stories sound like conflicts with preexisting system config or tweaks to your system.

Here's an example of a driver issue (Or developer issue really.)
When I have a 2nd monitor turned on I get microstuttering in league of legends. With VYSNC on the FPS is 60 except when I scroll across the map. Then it drops to 45. This is constant and repeatable. When I turn the 2nd monitor off this goes away.

This is more then likely a crossfire and/or driver issue. Although I really blame the developers for poor coding, not AMD in this case.

I've reinstalled windows 2x in the last couple of weeks for various reasons, the same issues happen right after clean install.

Here's an example of user error:
I gave my brother my AMD motherboard and a geforce 8800. He ran the SLI hack to attempt to run a 8800 GT / GTS. Obviously this did not work. He deleted the SLI Hack boot version. I sold him 6950. Without uninstalling the Nvidia drivers or SLI hack he installed the 6950. Now he has BSOD in windows AND safe mode. (Once again on the non-sli hack windows version.)

So, was it the SLI-hack or the Nvidia drivers? Could be either. Anyways, after reformatting it works perfect.


Also take into consideration some people go for years without reformatting. AND THEY FORGET THE TWEAKS THEY USED. Then they install new hardware and instantly cry "driver problems" when in reality they just have forgotten the massive amount of crap they have done to their system which is then conflicting.

Morale: Stop being scrubs and blaming it on drivers.
Very insightful, sir. I shall keep this in mind, although I am not one of the people who claim to have problems, but it's nice to know when troubleshooting in the future.
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If Nvidia was so much more expensive I would stay with them for my next GPU. but for ~260$ i can get a 6950 and unlock it and own everything.
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