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post #11 of 20
I stick to higher-end fans for cooling so I don't have to lube as often
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post #12 of 20
Had the exact fan give out.
I lubed it and it works now, but the damage is done (fan bearing is worn).
I have another new pair sitting on my case waiting for the old ones to die.

Make sure you lube them before you use them. tongue.gif
    
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post #13 of 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GfhTattoo;12723632 
Ya i hate thos fans. I owned one for like 3 hours. I hate fans that need lube. gt 1850 i like. i have a few krazy 3000 rpm fans die on me. sorry for your loss. looks like a new cpu your you and new fans smile.gif

Well I don't think it killed everything haven't determined yet whats going wrong with it, waiting till tmw...

Still not putting me with good terms with Scythe, I don't think I could lube this fan if I wanted too since I couldn't get the bearing off to begin with, I tried really hard but ended up snapping the back assembly off, which did on the other hand let me see exactly what shorted out.


I don't think the Computer is dead since it did boot back up after the fan died when I installed a new one as I mentioned in my thread

http://www.overclock.net/intel-general/964615-sig-rig-will-not-post-help.html

but something definitely happened I'm just not sure doesn't make sense after undervolting the IMC by accident that it would cease to boot from Post, and after playing musical chairs with my RAM sticks, it won't even post now.

Definitely looking more into the fans before I buy my next ones, because I'm sorry taking each fan apart even once a year is a fairly large task I'd rather buy higher quality ones.
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post #14 of 20
I was going to get the 40CFM version of these fans. They are incredibly cheap (5.70 or less is what I can get them for), but now I'm not sure it's worth it. Does anyone think relubing the fan before initial use would improve longevity? I planned on painting the fans anyway so I won't mind the hassle of taking them apart. Did you use any other scythe fans? Are they dead as well?
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post #15 of 20
Sleeve bearings are just cheaper than ball bearings or liquid bearings, its doesn't matter what fan they are used in or what company makes them. Sony and Panasonic make fans for most of these companies so the places that sell them don't have a lot to do with their quality.

Scythe is a fine company and S-Flexes and Gentle Typhoons are some one the best case and rad fans you can get. However those fans are fluid bearing and ball bearing respectively.
Edited by Ktulu - 3/14/11 at 7:08am
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post #16 of 20
The fact that your PC was okay after shutting down and restarting until you started changing BIOS settings seems like it wasn't the failed fan's fault...

To be honest, with the auto-shutdown features and protection I seriously doubt the fan failing killed your whole PC. CPUs are designed to be able to tolerate (for short amounts of time) temperatures above the TJ max, but the thermal shutoff point is set below this for obvious reasons. In any case, if it overheats and shuts down, it shouldn't permanently damage it.
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post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by Scorpii;12726213 
The fact that your PC was okay after shutting down and restarting until you started changing BIOS settings seems like it wasn't the failed fan's fault...

To be honest, with the auto-shutdown features and protection I seriously doubt the fan failing killed your whole PC. CPUs are designed to be able to tolerate (for short amounts of time) temperatures above the TJ max, but the thermal shutoff point is set below this for obvious reasons. In any case, if it overheats and shuts down, it shouldn't permanently damage it.

Thats why I'm so gdamn confused its just been going down hill. Its detecting RAM... no one is answering the 3 threads I have up re: it I get more useful posts in this one because its made far more obvious that nothing should have been damaged, its not like this happened overnight it was maybe over 10 minutes and the idle clocks caught up to it, and it spiked into a TJ max

the CPU was running fine, everything was fine.

This is after the overheating, so I shut down and loaded up default bio's settings and it completely freaks out and doesn't boot up, so I play musical chairs with the RAM sticks and now it won't post...

I just don't get how it was running fine while it was Overclocked, and now that I brought the clocks and everything to default it won't even give me an error message... just from downloading it to Default?!?!

At any rate though the fan is still was what caused this to begin with, do I think its responsible for the rest no, something else is amiss here.

took a picture with my Phone of the short.

occurred in a couple of places oddly enough circled in red is where I noticed significant heat damage/melted solder that shouldn't be there...

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post #18 of 20
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Just feels like too much going wrong at one... motherboard just shorted out not sure if these 2 were linked, but when I RMA to Asus... I'm not saying anything about this =)... I mean I did nothing to get a short circuit like this.. the fan can't be linked to this.

Anyway motherboard shorted out between DIMM_A1 and DIMM_B2

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It also jumped to the only RAM stick that was in there in DIMM_A1

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post #19 of 20
Your mb short may have cooked your fan.

Anyway, most of us don't trust our cpu heatsinks to sleeve bearing fans. Those are mostly for case fan work. Scythe puts the SS on their heatsinks, but they are easy to remove and re-lube.

I recommend lubricating every fan that has reachable bearings - even ball bearing fans. Lubricate fans before you put them to work, and then periodically thereafter. If you have a car you replace the oil periodically. Same with fans. It's not hard. See item 3 in my sig.
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I'm not sure what was going on with the motherboard short, it could have been what caused all of this and just needed the right circumstance again to fully short out, idk...

At any rate the Scythe fan was beyond repair when i removed it either way.

I tried to take off the fan to see if it was possible to lube it, but it ended up breaking off since the bearings were so worn down.

I'm filing for a RMA with Asus so looking at their policies it sounds good, so think I'll be in luck, I'll just run this next batch a little less hot, but I'm just wondering if it would be safe to test that DIMM in another motherboard?
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