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No. It's only a joke for Bioshock fans. Everything else I wrote is correct (as far as I know).
Curses. For a minute there i was incredibly jealous. I see the reference now.
post #32 of 54
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I disagree. You should NOT already have a maximum performance processor. Why? because you did not pay for it. No one owes you a free unlock code. No one is stopping you from unlocking the processor by yourself, if you can figure out how.

However ...
You should be THANKFUL that Intel/AMD/Nvidia even bothers to sell "partially disabled" processors at a much lower cost than a fully enabled processor.

For example:

If Nvidia only sold fully-functional Fermi cards, then there would only be GTX 580's. No 570/560/480/470/460.

If selling "partially disabled" processors ever becomes illegal, then, it's very possible, companies may only sell a few top-end processors ... and because of decreased sales, prices will probably increase to maintain profits.

-Andrew Ryan
I'm not saying you should have a maximum performance processor. That's why we overclock isn't it?

The point is that customers who have already bought a (what should be) fully functional processor are being charged again to unlock cache and HT. The cache shouldn't be locked in the first place. Intel does not (for all we know) do what AMD does with disabling faulty cores/meeting demand. With the market share and funds Intel has, they can afford to manufacture a whole (physically) different CPU line on the same architecture, and still come out profitable.

With the locked down AMD CPU's, they are locked down to meet demand for that price range, as (for simplicities sake, we'll say) AMD can't afford to manufacture a different line of processors for a specific market, be it mid/high/low. So they have many new chips with faulty cores or cache. They lock down the faulty ones and sell them as X2's or X3's, even the Semprons can be locked down duallies.

The whole unlocking thing was discovered by accident IIRC, and has now become a stable feature of all good motherboard manufacturers.

Intel makes a new line of processors rather than lock down existing ones simply because they can afford to, where AMD cannot, so they make do with the chips they have, minimising the wasting of chips/wafers and effectively getting second life out of them.

TL;DR: AMD locks down the CPU's and sells them as lesser models to meet demand for the market. Intel locks down cache and HT on CPU's to make more profit from their lower-end market. The chips are already fully functioning where some/many of the AMD ones aren't.

Please let's not bring GPU's into this. There was a thread already about unlocking certain nvidia GPU's, it was concluded that it did not work.
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The point is that customers who have already bought a (what should be) fully functional processor are being charged again to unlock cache and HT. The cache shouldn't be locked in the first place. Intel does not (for all we know) do what AMD does with disabling faulty cores/meeting demand. With the market share and funds Intel has, they can afford to manufacture a whole (physically) different CPU line on the same architecture, and still come out profitable.
Seems to me, what you're saying is .... the Pentium G6951 is a lie, a fraud. It should never have existed. Intel was wrong to sell i3's with locked hyperthreading and 1 MB L3 cache locked, at a lower price. Instead, People should have paid more for the i3, even if they do not want hyperthreading or 1 MB additional L3 cache. Locking is wrong. locked cpu's are wrong and should not exist. Is this what you think?

By the way, Engineering and manufacturing resources are limited and costly. Intel would probably increase prices on their budget cpu's .... if they built additional manufacturing lines to make them (instead of simply locking their high-end cpu's). If profits on these new budget cpu's are too low, they may cancel them and then, no more budget cpu's.

What you're proposing will reduce profits for Intel (due to increased engineering/manufacturing costs) which could result in increased cpu prices, possibly for everyone. Is this what you want?

Consider these words .... in the long run, higher efficiency is better for Earth, even if it means there is some unfairness or inequality. The earth has limited resources. Solutions which decrease efficiency will lead to sooner depletion of Earth's resouces.

Higher efficiency means Earth's resouces will last longer and, in general, humans will survive longer too, but not every human will survive longer. Locking high-end cpu's and selling at a lower cost is more simple and efficient than making new designs and/or new manufacturing lines for budget cpu's. This is why it's better to lock cpu's, even if you personally think it's wrong.
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ok, people are paying for perfectly functional processor, albeit locked down software wise and Intel wants to rape them for more money by asking them for more money so they can "unlock" that cache or whatever.

Not the same thing in AMD's case, where the locked parts were ACTUALLY dysfunctional and thus locked for a reason.
     
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Yes, old 'news'.
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Lol at the AMD fanboys...
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Intel was founded out of evil

Intel is completely tied into the industry of DEATH
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the whole point of this idea (which IIRC is only in its trial stage) was to allow people to boost the performance of their LAPTOP later down the road rather than going out and buying a whole new laptop.
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they still bought the whole silicon itself, and the whole silicon should not be locked unless parts of it was defective.
     
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they still bought the whole silicon itself, and the whole silicon should not be locked unless parts of it was defective.
The point I was trying to get across with my ramblings

For the record I'm not a fanboy. Show me a good performing piece of electronics and I'll buy it regardless of branding
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