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Isn't your monitor 60 hz? So basically anything over 60 fps won't really matter unless you get a monitor with a faster refresh rate?

I am sure your current set up and 2x 6950s are getting over 60 fps in every game so what's the problem really? It seems some people are so obsessed with getting like 100+ frames per second but if their monitor is 60 hz they are only seeing 60 frames...

It sounds like you are trying to push your graphics cards to the limit which is cool, but I don't think you would even notice much of difference in 90% of games because like I said your probably already getting the most frames per second your monitor can display.
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Some games that only use 2 cores will be bottlenecked. Two 6950s are extremely powerful, and the Phenom II can't take advantage of its power like the i7 can due to less efficient architecture.

In most games, you will be fine, but there will be games that don't scale very well.

The charts only has a 5970, and your two 6950s should be much more powerful. But you can get a good idea of some of the bottlenecks:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...lock,2699.html
How do you suppose the new 32nm BD architecture from AMD will utilize the power of dual HD6950's? I have two HD 6950's right now and decided not to unlock them and flash to 6970's just because they seem just fine as is and I am running a 1090T BE @ 3.8Ghz
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Isn't your monitor 60 hz? So basically anything over 60 fps won't really matter unless you get a monitor with a faster refresh rate?

I am sure your current set up and 2x 6950s are getting over 60 fps in every game so what's the problem really? It seems some people are so obsessed with getting like 100+ frames per second but if their monitor is 60 hz they are only seeing 60 frames...

It sounds like you are trying to push your graphics cards to the limit which is cool, but I don't think you would even notice much of difference in 90% of games because like I said your probably already getting the most frames per second your monitor can display.
If your not going to offer a solution get lost. I believe this is a Overclockers forum not a "just enough to get the job done" forum. The whole point to this is to not just play games at max settings but murder them at 100+FPS. If I just wanted to get 60 fps constantly I would stay with a quad core and only one of these cards. I don't I want to build a monster of a rig while hopefully doing it all AMD style.
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Just saying your basically not bottle necked if your hitting over 60 fps on all games, you won't notice a difference going higher then that with your monitor.

Maybe in a couple years games will actually be under 60 fps in your system, until then not a gaming bottleneck imo.

So for 99% of the current games your not bottle necked, if you want to get a few frames on that 1% of games that actually need it or for benchmarking you can go i7.

If you got the money just get the fastest i7 sounds like you don't care about what is cost efficient for gaming needs.
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Just saying your basically not bottle necked if your hitting over 60 fps on all games, you won't notice a difference going higher then that with your monitor.

Maybe in a couple years games will actually be under 60 fps in your system, until then not a gaming bottleneck imo.

So for 99% of the current games your not bottle necked, if you want to get a few frames on that 1% of games that actually need it or for benchmarking you can go i7.

If you got the money just get the fastest i7 sounds like you don't care about what is cost efficient for gaming needs.
More misinformation, look up what the word bottleneck means. It has NO BASIS on how playable something is. It simply means one component is preventing another from running at its optimal speed. His gpu usage proves this, there is no debate to be had. Yes his games are completely playable and it's really not that big of a deal as far as playability goes but the fact of the matter is his xfire 6950's are performing worse than xfire 6850's that are being run to their full potential in many of the games he is playing. Like I said, even my 920 at 4Ghz bottlenecks my 470's in cpu intensive areas of some games.

CPU bottlenecks are a very real issue when it comes to high end video card setups, yes most of the time it is 100% playable and sure you can say "well you only get 80 fps instead of 110, so what?" but the fact of the matter is you spent the money to get the maximum performance out of them and you are getting performance equal to cards that would be hundreds of dollars cheaper depend on the game. Especially considering the major issue with cpu bottlenecks is that they are the primary cause of minimum fps and fps spikes which are the most noticeable issues you can have with fps.
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Yes I know technically there is a bottleneck for him. I am just trying to say that he probably won't notice an actual perceptible improvement in almost any games by eliminating this "bottleneck". If he wants to get "maximum" performance he should go with a new sandy bridge i7 and overclock it like mad.

My main point is that he may be chasing after a level of performance right now that games just don't even require yet. My system is a pretty modest gaming rig (compared to top of the line components) yet I play every game I have at 1920x1080 maxed settings very smoothly (Crysis, Starcraft 2, Dead Space 2, Fallout 3, Civilization 5).

So I guess the division of opinions is how useful are these performance increases when your already running the games flawlessly at your monitors refresh rate. Is this extra performance worth it?

As long as he's aware of this but still wants more performance then by all means go Sandy Bridge i7 its faster.
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If your not going to offer a solution get lost. I believe this is a Overclockers forum not a "just enough to get the job done" forum. The whole point to this is to not just play games at max settings but murder them at 100+FPS. If I just wanted to get 60 fps constantly I would stay with a quad core and only one of these cards. I don't I want to build a monster of a rig while hopefully doing it all AMD style.
So much hate...


If you even get a Phenom x6 for gaming then suit yourself. Some researches before purchasing a hexacore for gaming and you wouldn't have this problem.

Or if you got the x6 to do things that actually requires more threads like rendering and ****, suit yourself.

You can't get it all.
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So much hate...


If you even get a Phenom x6 for gaming then suit yourself. Some researches before purchasing a hexacore for gaming and you wouldn't have this problem.

Or if you got the x6 to do things that actually requires more threads like rendering and ****, suit yourself.

You can't get it all.
whats wrong with the x6 for gaming? it games just fine. most of the x6 is so cheap now...why not get it? extra two cores will be handy later on if anything...or go do some encoding or rendering down the road.
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So much hate...


If you even get a Phenom x6 for gaming then suit yourself. Some researches before purchasing a hexacore for gaming and you wouldn't have this problem.

Or if you got the x6 to do things that actually requires more threads like rendering and ****, suit yourself.

You can't get it all.
So much hate there.

The X6 is perfectly good for gaming, and please re-word your paragraph's, I barely understood what your talking about
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