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As far as the game "running like crap" I havent had any issues personally.

Well yes but look at your hardware, it shouldn't take that much to max an RPG.
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Honestly, it's always a learning process. Dragon Age II comes out of some things we'd identified for Origins and anything we do in the future is going to come out of this response to Dragon Age II.

YOU LEARN NOTHING , YOU LOSE.GOOD DAY SIR.
    
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Very interesting read. Nice to see that there's some response from BioWare on the reviews. Parts of the answers make me think "Oh crap, what a cop-out" or "Oh crap, they aren't going to change anything in the next one". And then parts of it make me think the opposite.

His answer for "Are you happy with the reviews of Dragon Age II?" is a little concerning though. He comments on two of the biggest things that people complained about (reusing spaces and plot) and he didn't really say that they cared much about the negative reviews on those aspects:



Ok, well what about the other majority of comments that aren't positive on that?

He does go on to say


which is hopefully a good sign.

Also, regarding the Metacritic stuff. Sure, it got in an 81 (Xbox), 84 (PC), and a 83 (PS3) but those were all critic reviews. Look at the user reviews... 3.7 (PS3), 4.1 (Xbox and PC).
When an +A game like Dragon Age 2 gets an average of 4.0 when it has nice graphics, smooth gameplay and very minor bugs, you know the gaming community has been taken over by whiny little 17 yr olds. The game is a solid 8.5

The game is fun, addictive and has great graphics. The story was worlds better than that cut-and-paste LotR knockoff they did for DA:O. Your character has better options, he's not just emo nice or emo mean. The game tries to streamline the weapon options so as not to bog you down with endless item management.

There were only 4 flaws in it. The first is that they did away with the in-game finishing moves. While I'd agree that after your 400th Ogre, you get tired of it, they're still worlds better than the cut scenes. They could have easily kept the in game kill scenes for the bosses.

The other issue is the limited maps. Everything is extremely reused. The inside of the houses are almost all the same. The inside of the caves are laid out the same. The inside of the dungeons are the same.

The third was the AI. I had to massively micro to stay ahead in Hard mode. I felt like i was playing a game of StarCraft. The characters AND the bosses did the dumbest things. The head Qunari fought me and was practically swinging at air in front of him while i was wailing on him from behind. I'd rather the AI be much harder and the health be turned down on the enemies so it feels more real. It took me like 20 min of wailing on this guy b/c he had 4 health potions AND he had more health than a humanoid should have.

The last is that the 'options' you choose for some of your missions still have the same outcome. Namely the Keeper/Merrill and Hawkes Mom.
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When an +A game like Dragon Age 2 gets an average of 4.0 when it has nice graphics, smooth gameplay and very minor bugs, you know the gaming community has been taken over by whiny little 17 yr olds. The game is a solid 8.5

The game is fun, addictive and has great graphics. The story was worlds better than that cut-and-paste LotR knockoff they did for DA:O. Your character has better options, he's not just emo nice or emo mean. The game tries to streamline the weapon options so as not to bog you down with endless item management.
You sir just saved me typing a lot. +Rep
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There were only 4 flaws in it. The first is that they did away with the in-game finishing moves. While I'd agree that after your 400th Ogre, you get tired of it, they're still worlds better than the cut scenes. They could have easily kept the in game kill scenes for the bosses.
I did like them, they're still there just as cinematics now. They mainly got rid of them because they felt like while your character was doing this awesome slow mode thing, they rather s/he was fighting something to end the battle more quickly.

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The other issue is the limited maps. Everything is extremely reused. The inside of the houses are almost all the same. The inside of the caves are laid out the same. The inside of the dungeons are the same.
I will give you that

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The third was the AI. I had to massively micro to stay ahead in Hard mode. I felt like i was playing a game of StarCraft. The characters AND the bosses did the dumbest things. The head Qunari fought me and was practically swinging at air in front of him while i was wailing on him from behind. I'd rather the AI be much harder and the health be turned down on the enemies so it feels more real. It took me like 20 min of wailing on this guy b/c he had 4 health potions AND he had more health than a humanoid should have.
Don't get me even started on Nightmare that was a travel to hell and back.

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The last is that the 'options' you choose for some of your missions still have the same outcome. Namely the Keeper/Merrill and Hawkes Mom.
The Hawke's mum thing was (Try to keep the spoilers as low as possible) they thought it would be more emotionally egaging this way. Which they're right it brought a man tear to my eye
Edited by G. Callen - 3/14/11 at 3:45am
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Eh, im having a blast playing DAII right now, I think its a great sequel and it doesn't deserve all the negativity towards it, and the HD textures work fine on my GPU, cant image how good the game would look with a DX11 card...
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When an +A game like Dragon Age 2 gets an average of 4.0 when it has nice graphics, smooth gameplay and very minor bugs, you know the gaming community has been taken over by whiny little 17 yr olds. The game is a solid 8.5
Yes, because obviously people can't have their own opinions and dislikes about something and only your opinion is right, Thanks. I didn't know that.

DA 2 at it's best is just an ok game. It's not gamechanging and it's not super terrible. It's just okay. In some instances Dragon Age Origins was and is better and in some ways DA 2 is better.
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The story was worlds better than that cut-and-paste LotR knockoff they did for DA:O. Your character has better options, he's not just emo nice or emo mean.
Yes this is one of the things I really really liked about the game. While I really enjoyed DA:O and I'd concede that DA2 doesn't have the "epicness" of Origins due to the smaller area the game is in, the story was much better. Orgins seems very black and white in comparison to DA2 which is much more morrally ambiguous.

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The other issue is the limited maps. Everything is extremely reused. The inside of the houses are almost all the same. The inside of the caves are laid out the same. The inside of the dungeons are the same.
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The third was the AI. I had to massively micro to stay ahead in Hard mode. I felt like i was playing a game of StarCraft. The characters AND the bosses did the dumbest things. The head Qunari fought me and was practically swinging at air in front of him while i was wailing on him from behind. I'd rather the AI be much harder and the health be turned down on the enemies so it feels more real. It took me like 20 min of wailing on this guy b/c he had 4 health potions AND he had more health than a humanoid should have.
I found (on hard) I had did have to pause from time to time but not nearly as much as I did on Origins. The boss's are broken however there is no progression to them. IMHO the rock wraith and then the Bone Pit Dragon are the only bosses that offer a challange but like you said only because they are a grind. I didn't have an issue with the Asharock though my 2h warrior cut him down pretty quickly
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The main problem here is that everyone is assuming that DAO was the better game and DA2 is a failure to meet DAO's standards.
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Yes, because obviously people can't have their own opinions and dislikes about something and only your opinion is right, Thanks. I didn't know that.
Their 'opinion' is garbage and doesn't count for crap b/c 90% of it is unsubstantiated and hyperbole laden. Its not opinion, it's nerd rage.

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DA 2 at it's best is just an ok game. It's not gamechanging and it's not super terrible. It's just okay. In some instances Dragon Age Origins was and is better and in some ways DA 2 is better.
I never said it was a game changer. It's a solid game with few major flaws. It's not deserving of a 4.0. A 4.0 average is like 'Worst Game of All-Time' territory. Even the new Bionic Commando didn't get that bad a score. http://www.metacritic.com/game/plays...ionic-commando

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Yes this is one of the things I really really liked about the game. While I really enjoyed DA:O and I'd concede that DA2 doesn't have the "epicness" of Origins due to the smaller area the game is in, the story was much better. Orgins seems very black and white in comparison to DA2 which is much more morrally ambiguous.
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I found (on hard) I had did have to pause from time to time but not nearly as much as I did on Origins. The boss's are broken however there is no progression to them. IMHO the rock wraith and then the Bone Pit Dragon are the only bosses that offer a challange but like you said only because they are a grind. I didn't have an issue with the Asharock though my 2h warrior cut him down pretty quickly
I'm not saying it's hard b/c it's difficult. I'm saying that the AI is so FUBAR'd that your characters do the exact opposite of what they should be doing. Varric + Mages running through the incomming crowd to 'get away'. Varric not lining shots up correctly. Characters wasting combo moves on nothingness.
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The game boils down to this, really: "good/great game, but the first was better"
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