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post #61 of 93
crossfire seems to be an amazing option for those of us currently planning to stick with a single 1900x1080 monitor.. Two 6850s will run about $340 whereas a single 580 will run $499 with similar performance.
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Tomshardware used to provide very unbiased reviews, but not much any more.

Just looking at the test setup you see this "review" has fail all over it:

AMD cards: 3x XFX HD-695A-CNFC = $289.99ea or $869.97
Nvidia cards: 3x Asus ENGTX570/2DI/1280MD5 = $399.99ea ($339.99 with $60 mail in rebate) or $1199.97 ($1019.97 with $180 mail in rebate)

If the review was based on cards of the same cost, then they should be comparing those Asus 570's to any of the 6970 cards, as they are all under $399. Or if they wanted to get technical and include the mail in rebate as part of the 570's cost, then they should compare to the MSI or Powercolor 6970's, which cost exactly $339.99 too.

That's the first fail.


Moving on though, lets look at the date of the review and compare that to the drivers used in the test setup.
Date of review: March 14, 2011
AMD driver used: 11.1 (released January 2011)
Current AMD driver available as of review date: 11.4ep (released March 10, 2011)

Nvidia driver used: 266.58 (released January 18, 2011)
Current Nvidia driver: 266.58

So they used the most current Nvidia drivers, yet they used older AMD drivers. And to make it worse, they didn't even use the 11.1a hotfix drivers that were introduced for the newer 6900 series cards.

That's the second fail.


Now I read the article and gone right over the test setup page, and nowhere did they mention or list the catalyst application profiles used for the AMD setup - which are at 11.2 CAP3 and were released on Feb 2, 2011 and so were not included with the 11.1 cat drivers they used in the test setup.

That's the third fail.


So all up a three pretty big fails, leading to another fairly biased review from Tomshardware.

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So all up a three pretty big fails, leading to another fairly biased review from Tomshardware.

My 2c.
It's so biased they ended up saying that AMD blows away nVidia on scaling
    
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It's so biased they ended up saying that AMD blows away nVidia on scaling
Because if they didn't they would be flat-out lying. AMD won even though they were at a disadvantage in the tests. If this test was comparing cards in the same price range, it would look even worse for NVIDIA because the 6970 is around 10% faster than the 6950.
    
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I think they are sorta even, my SIG rig setup uses Nvidia tri-sli i have looked at crossfire 5870's but i belive at higher resolutions nvdia has really pulled it off alot better.

I run nvidia surround at a resolution of 6040x1080 BC and i can manage good frame rates. and not run out of memory. I know for fact that ill struggle from memory with AMD/ATI solution.



 
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post #66 of 93
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~350 vs ~280 should not the 570 be faster?

This is Toms after all, even though they post a pro ATI article, they still have to give the illusion that NV remains better.
This is what I was thinking from the first page. These cards aren't even in the same price bracket. Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the 570's to the 6970's? I stopped reading after that.
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I would like to see the differents in Quad/Xfire scaling with Eyefinity/3D Surround. Those High Resolutions should make a difference.. If not then going with more than 2 cards is still a waist of money.
The only place I can think of that has that is this link no other website(s) that I know of have eyefinity/nivida surround reviews. It's like all the other sites are scared to.
     
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For all those bashing tri-sli/tri-fire.... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU lol

I've had my tri-9800gtx+'s for like 2 years, AND I run 1680x1050 resolution, so what?

But I also game in 3d and 3d vision definitely needs the extra gpu power without a doubt.

But I will agree that tri-sli is a waste of money and not worth it in majority of cases.

In most games it was at most 5-10fps more with the 3rd card but the biggest difference was in benchmarks for sure.
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Do all tests again with 11.4!

AMD always looking brighter and brighter..
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Do all tests again with 11.4!
This.

My Tri-Fire 6990+6970 set-up is flying with those 11.4 preview drivers.
    
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