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Like the title says, I've stumbled upon a few dollars from making a huge sale, so I've been looking at lenses and reviews all weekend (except for yesterday afternoon whilst shooting). I've been eyeing a couple lenses for some time:

-17-40L
-135L
-70-200L (f/4, no IS)

...for various reasons. I'm not entirely sure I would uses a tele very often, but the 135 would be great for ninja street candids, which I have been trying to shoot more of lately (and enjoying quite a bit). That being said, I would more than likely use the 17-40 the most out of any of them, even though I almost never use the 18-55 (awful distortion @ 18, flat colors, terrible build/handling).

I want to get some pros/cons on those three lenses from you guys, as I'm very close to pulling the impulse trigger on the 17-40, but would like a little more insight first.
post #2 of 47
Full frame time!
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Nah. I've got no need to scoot up to a 5D yet. I've been shooting my 1N more as of late, though.
post #4 of 47
Oh, then in that case its 135L time! I personally think the 70-200 f/4 L is silly. Its just way too slow for anything IMO.
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Given your current lenses, it seems like a 17-40 would be a duplication of most of your focal lengths (though at the same time, it'd be higher quality glass, and thus (at least, hopefully!) higher IQ (and resellability).

That being said, your shooting seems to support primes more. I'd probably say go 135mm. I love my 70-200 (even though I haven't been shooting with it since I've been so busy ) but I'd probably put it last out of the three (even though it's great IQ for the $).
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Well, like I mentioned, I rarely use the 18-55 because it's just god-awful to use. Manual focus is this side of impossible; it's also very susceptible to damage and the lack of sealing prohibited me from using it a few times already in the past week (I did use it a bit yesterday at the dunes, but I had to take my hoodie off and use the sleeve to cover the mount area so that the sand and lake spray being blown at me didn't enter the body).

I rarely use my 50, my 35 is on very often, and I really wish I could have a nice walk-around that went wider than 35 but didn't distort the hell out of everything and allowed easier MF. The only problem I have with the 135L is that it's a little pricey, and after renting several teles, I'm just not absolutely sure how much I would use it, although it is far and away sharper than everything I've rented/used thus far, and less obvious/white than the 70-200.

Bah, choices.
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Any of the three lenses are good choices, but I say go with your needs, which means the 17-40. And someone is bound to say it, but the Canon 17-55 is a better choice on a crop sensor than the 17-40 (f/2.8, IS, better FL range, equal IQ). If you were going to shoot just landscapes with the 17-40, then I would say go with that since it's much more flare resistant that the 17-55. I've owned both the 17-55 and 17-40 on crop, and I can definitely say that the 17-55 is the better lens by far. And the build quality isn't as bad as you might expect for the 17-55; it's actually very good. It just lacks sealing, but I used mine in the rain quite a bit with no issue.

The 135/2 is an amazing lens, often regarded as Canon's sharpest lens. I absolutely love it and it's great for street candids. It would be rather long on a crop sensor though.

And the 70-200 f/4 non-IS is of course a nice lens, but I would recommend anyone considering that lens to get the IS version, and not just for the IS. The IS version has an updated optical design and is sharper.
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Losing 15mm on the long end is not a big deal for me, since I can chuck the 50 in my pocket if I absolutely can't move any closer. I've looked through shots I've taken with my 18-55, and all are 35mm or below. 2.8 and IS aren't really dealbreakers, one stop of light shooting landscapes is easily solveable, and even general walk-around during the daytime isn't usually begging for a bigger aperture. The handling, AF/USM and weathersealing are huge for me. It's another reason the 135 is appealing, but for different reasons -- although I still feel like it'll get a backseat to the 85. The 70-200 would be great with IS, but it's also a huge jump in price... I'm not sure I want to do that. I'm also not sure I want a big white tube giving me away every time I try and ninja some street shots.
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Losing 15mm on the long end is not a big deal for me, since I can chuck the 50 in my pocket if I absolutely can't move any closer. I've looked through shots I've taken with my 18-55, and all are 35mm or below. 2.8 and IS aren't really dealbreakers, one stop of light shooting landscapes is easily solveable, and even general walk-around during the daytime isn't usually begging for a bigger aperture. The handling, AF/USM and weathersealing are huge for me. It's another reason the 135 is appealing, but for different reasons -- although I still feel like it'll get a backseat to the 85. The 70-200 would be great with IS, but it's also a huge jump in price... I'm not sure I want to do that. I'm also not sure I want a big white tube giving me away every time I try and ninja some street shots.
Sounds good, but note that the 17-55 is a USM lens, ring-type with FTM, just like the 17-40. It is much pricier though, even used, whereas the 17-40 goes for much cheaper. I've seen copies of the 17-40 sell in $500 range at POTN, whereas the 17-55 never seems to go lower than $900 or the high $800's.

And if you get the 135, you might toss your 85 after you see how awesome it is wide open.

And the good thing about the 70-200/4 is that it's very compact. It's not as noticeable as the 2.8 version which is twice the width and weight.


The 24-105L might be a good solution as well. Wouldn't be particularly wide, but that role can be filled down the line with a UWA zoom.
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Have you given any thought to the Canon 10-22? I used it for a little the other day, I have a friend who has it. It really is a truly amazing lens, so much fun to shoot with, takes great photos.

I am actually at a toss up between that and the 70-200 F4L, I plan on getting both, I just gotta figure which goes first.
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