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Old and New Problems with My Maximus IV Extreme Board (pls help)

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So, I had a pre update Maximus IV extreme and just the other day installed my revised version I received from Newegg. I’ve had the same problem on both boards so I assume this problem is not hardware specific but I cannot figure it out. Additionally I’ve had a new and probably unrelated problem on the replacement board.

First off, my setup: (I’m at work so doing this from memory)
Maximus IV Extreme 1101bios , 2600K OC’ed to 4.6 GHz @ 1.32v, 16gb DDR3 16000 Mushkin Redline CAS7 Memory, C300 Crucial 128GB SSD Drive (primary), 2TB Seagate Data drive secondary, Old GTX280 Video Card (I’m waiting for Kepler), Logitech 510 Keyboard, Logitech gaming mouse (don’t remember version), and Windows 7 64bit. Latest drivers off Asus / Nvidia’s site.

Now my problem(s):
Problem on both old and new motherboard is the resume on sleep function. When you put your PC in sleep mode, at least on every other computer I own, I simply need to mash some keys to start it back up. When I do that on this system it makes the noises but my USB keyboard / mouse doesn’t power up, displays don’t come on, and the internal LED reads EA or E9 (not 100% on this as I’m at work). Is it a problem with my SSD drive or a setting that I over looked?

My 2nd problem, and this is only on the new replacement ROG board has to do with rear USB ports, keyboard and mouse. Historically I’ve used the 2nd set of USB ports to power mouse / keyboard as the top set plug into the headers for the front of my case (Cooler Master HAF 932 I think). On 3 occasions, twice during a game and once surfing the net, the keyboard and mouse would both die… 1min later I’d get a USB message saying your device has malfunctioned, click here for more info (of course I cant). Removing the keyboard mouse to different ports does not fix the problem, they still wont light up. Additionally I did try it with my old G15 keyboard and got the error to happen again. To remedy the situation I’ve plugged them into the front of my computer (which is patched thru to the top ports) and haven’t had the problem in 48 hours of use. Just for reference on the 2nd set of ports I would get the problem each time within 30min of use.

I have not unplugged other USB devices to see if there is some strange conflict or tried other ports then the front of case ports (which patch to the back). Do I have a bad MB? I’d hate to pull this one after just installing it.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I hope someone has some good suggestions.

~Flasheart
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post #2 of 10
Not sure about the USB issue, but with regards to the sleep issue, have you tried it without your OC? It could be that when Windows is trying to resume, it's freaking out or something. Try it at stock clocks.

Can't imagine it would be the SSD, but look around the BIOS to see if theres anything that could be causing issues.

I'll do some googling to see what I can find.

This thread may be of interest : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=265346
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Originally Posted by hokeyplyr48 View Post
Not sure about the USB issue, but with regards to the sleep issue, have you tried it without your OC? It could be that when Windows is trying to resume, it's freaking out or something. Try it at stock clocks.

Can't imagine it would be the SSD, but look around the BIOS to see if theres anything that could be causing issues.

I'll do some googling to see what I can find.

This thread may be of interest : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=265346
Thanks for that thread; I'll try dropping my OC to 4.5 and or disable PLL Overvolatge (think its set to auto). Will post results to this thread tonight after I get home.

USB issue is still outstanding though.

WRT stability; I always burn in Prime95 Blend with HT for 1 hour before I consider my system stable. I have another heat related issue (on a Prime 95 according to RealTemp the cores reach 74 at 4.6GHz and I'm using an H70). I think thats a bit high but the temps never get past mid 50's during normal gaming so It's not a big concern.
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Kept CPU at 4.6 and disabled PLL Overvoltage. That appeared to do the trick (atleast in 2 S3 sleep tests I've done).

Still having that USB Issue...
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post #5 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flasheart View Post
Kept CPU at 4.6 and disabled PLL Overvoltage. That appeared to do the trick (atleast in 2 S3 sleep tests I've done).

Still having that USB Issue...
check the Bios settings, the USB controller might be off.
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yup CPU pll overvoltage and S3 sleep do not mix and match.
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post #7 of 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunapiano View Post
check the Bios settings, the USB controller might be off.
Sorry... wasnt that obvious. I have considered disabling USB 3.0 Support (since I dont have any 3.0 devices at this time).

When I get a few more hours to play around I'll test different slots / configurations. Again was just checking if the user community has experienced the same issue and how they resolved it.

On a side note; I know the CPU is the single biggest factor in overclocking, then motherboard, cooling, and ram.

I'm very lasy and slightly ignorant to what all the power settings control. I know my voltage values to CPU and RAM, but never mess with anything else.

I'd love to know what tweek settings other Maximus IV users have implemented to achieve good stable builds with PLL Off and HT on.

ATM, I'm 4.6GHz @ 1.35V and running 16GB CAS7 / 1600 @ 1.6V

I have an H70 but running the fans in duty mode at 70% on one and 60% on the other (makes the system very quiet), I've found that running fans slower only adds about 2degrees to my temps when blending. As stated before my normal operating temps while gaming are around 45C but hit upto 75C after blending for an hour. With an H70 I would assume it should be -10C of that. Anyways, rambling... but would like to know how to increase speed further, while remaining stable, without much increase in heat.

Respectfully...

Flasheart
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post #8 of 10
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Woke up this morning... mashed my keyboard to wake up the computer from S3... nothing happened. Hit the power button and the system resumed operation... right to windows 7 as I had left it the night before. Keyboard and Mouse not working

A few seconds later an error pops up in the systray saying your USB device has stopped working. Mouse / Keyboard are not lighting up so I assume they are not getting power.. switched ports, no go...

Rebooted computer; bios wouldnt detect them.

Rinse / Repeat 4 or 5 times... bios still not detecting them /cry

changed ports again with power off... powered the system back on and mouse / keyboard resumed working...

What's the deal. I'm about to the point to contact newegg and get the rev3 maximus IV replaced but I just went thru this a week ago and its not something I find that exciting.

Then I got to thinking... although most of my bios settings are default, is there a setting that would control power to the motherboard in such a way I'm starving my usb devices of what power they need? I do have several USB devices connected: USB mic, keyboard, mouse, webcam, smartcard reader.

Then again, all these things worked fine with the old Maximus IV.

Why do these things always happen over the weekend
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post #9 of 10
You've installed the lastest drivers/BIOS/updates, right? That would be something I'd check out. Skimmed your first post, didn't see anything about it.

A man walks into the doctors office and complains to the doc that his whole body hurts. The doc touches him in several places but the man doesn't flinch. The man, thinking he's cured, pushes his hand away and pokes his body all over and screams in pain every time. Perplexed, the doc looked at the man, and then at the man's finger. He took the man's hand and sure enough, his finger was broken.

Moral of the story? If it "Sleep" is causing your computer to act wonky, don't use it. Your computer boots up how fast already with a SSD and a 2600k? Just grab a drink or something while it turns on.

I know, I know. You want it to work as persribed, and by all means, pursue a solution. But if that's the only trouble you're having, be thankful, lol.
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post #10 of 10
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I appreciate the post, and humor

Bios is latest 1101. Drivers are latest (as of wednesday when I last checked).

Problem isnt with S3 (that has been fixed)... USB problems were while using Win7. Today problems were even as the system was posting (wouldnt detect mouse or keyboard).

Intermitten problems are the most difficult to troubleshoot / pin down. What I can say is this:

With my old rev1 Maximus IV using same keyboard, mouse, cpu, memory, etc... I had zero USB issues in the 1 month I used it before newegg cross-shipped me my rev3 board.

To that end I'm pretty confident the problem must be in the MB. I just got off the phone with newegg, I told them I wanted a cross ship but since it was an intermitten issue there wanst a huge rush. Take care of the people who have been waiting for this board first; once they have extras in stock - even if its a few weeks or a month - then they can cross ship me the replacement.

~Flasheart
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