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He makes a good point...but there is more to it. Itunes has dropped music quality astronomically. Most songs have a light fuzz to them, sound grainy, etc. Apple has been bringing us products that take quality out of our every day life and IMO it is beginning to take its tole. The only exception is the Iphone.
? How is that an exception? It's an ipod touch that makes phone calls.
     
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The irony here is that ITunes is a curse and a blessing. Coming from a guy that has been around long enough to have owned 8-tracks... (oh Yeah!!!).

What I find frustrating in general is that when I was a kid/teen, live concerts were actually affordable. I recall being at the Michael Jackson concert in Toronto (5th row from the stage) and the tickets were $75 each.

I took my wife to see Elton john a couple of years ago and paid $350 each for decent seats...

I get that artists have lost huge revenue streams due to piracy and have returned to performances to make money and I applaud them for that. However, I'd go to a lot more concerts if they were more reasonably priced.

We went and saw Bon Jovi last year and I couldn't get tickets as the scalpers cleaned up in the first 20 minutes. I ended up paying $600 for two decent seats (and that wasn't too far above the ticket price).

My kid goes to 2 concerts a year max due to the cost. She saw Gaga with her friends recently and that cost me $175 for the ticket...

Brutal

My kid does use ITunes to get music though. I still prefer to buy CD's. Usually it's me and some other middle aged guy in the music store.


I just wish concerts cost less. I can afford it but what I paid to see Guns & Roses and AC DC combined makes me shudder...
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The irony here is that ITunes is a curse and a blessing. Coming from a guy that has been around long enough to have owned 8-tracks... (oh Yeah!!!).

What I find frustrating in general is that when I was a kid/teen, live concerts were actually affordable. I recall being at the Michael Jackson concert in Toronto (5th row from the stage) and the tickets were $75 each.

I took my wife to see Elton john a couple of years ago and paid $350 each for decent seats...

I get that artists have lost huge revenue streams due to piracy and have returned to performances to make money and I applaud them for that. However, I'd go to a lot more concerts if they were more reasonably priced.

We went and saw Bon Jovi last year and I couldn't get tickets as the scalpers cleaned up in the first 20 minutes. I ended up paying $600 for two decent seats (and that wasn't too far above the ticket price).

My kid goes to 2 concerts a year max due to the cost. She saw Gaga with her friends recently and that cost me $175 for the ticket...

Brutal

My kid does use ITunes to get music though. I still prefer to buy CD's. Usually it's me and some other middle aged guy in the music store.


I just wish concerts cost less. I can afford it but what I paid to see Guns & Roses and AC DC combined makes me shudder...
Psst. Part of that is the terrible force known as INFLATION. Your $75 back then would be likely == to double or more now.

They haven't lost huge amounts. If anything they likely gained more fans and more customers. They feel that they are responding to demand and they're also responding to likely an increase in cost being made by the venue owners. Everyone is taking more from someone else these days. That's all.
     
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Yeah I miss the days where I was forced to buy a full CD only to discover there was only one good song it.
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I'd like to own all my music on a physical format, but almost everytime I go to the store looking for an album, I either can't find it or find it at a price that is much higher than on Amazon MP3. Digital isn't hurting the music industry at all. It's giving bands that aren't mainstream "shelf space" and giving us albums at a lower cost. Thats a win win situation for both artists and consumers.
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Psst. Part of that is the terrible force known as INFLATION. Your $75 back then would be likely == to double or more now.

They haven't lost huge amounts. If anything they likely gained more fans and more customers. They feel that they are responding to demand and they're also responding to likely an increase in cost being made by the venue owners. Everyone is taking more from someone else these days. That's all.
PARTIALLY part to inflation. Most of it is due to people who sit online, buy tickets, and resell them online. People like that have existed since the dawn of time, but nowhere to the scale it is now with the verge of craigslist, ebay, and other methods of selling and their respective popularity of consumers. To buy a ticket and resell at a higher price is an industry revenue almost of its own now.

While they might still be selling tickets, if not more than usual, the end result is the consumers having to spend alot more than what they would've had the double middle man been cut out.
Some local music thing for example usually sells at $5 and as they get closer to the day they sell about $100. People who buy them and sell them online, they go skyrockting to $1,000. People actually spend that money because they're that desperate to go.
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I'd like to own all my music on a physical format, but almost everytime I go to the store looking for an album, I either can't find it or find it at a price that is much higher than on Amazon MP3. Digital isn't hurting the music industry at all. It's giving bands that aren't mainstream "shelf space" and giving us albums at a lower cost. Thats a win win situation for both artists and consumers.
It's more complicated than just that. Some of us (ie me) aren't happy being lied to with the whole "MP3/AAC is as good as CD" crap. I want my FLAC/ALAC/WAV/AIFF (insert other lossless) formats. I love how people don't really care about source quality.
     
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From what I hear, Steve Jobs pumps small doses of deadly neuro-toxins, called iChoke, into every recording studio so that people can not record for more than three minutes at a time without risking a painful death.

He's also able to use the Apple iZap orbital satellite to vaporize every brick-and-mortar record store, or any store that sells records in the blasphemous "album" format.

He also personally comes into your house at night while you're sleeping and uses special Apple-brand iSonicdeath software to permanently scramble your music collection.
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A part of me died inside when Virgin closed their media stores around where I used to live...

But i think its time to move on to digital copies of music.. but when i want a cd i can always go to target.

I love the fact that musical artists are more focused on live concerts because most of the good artists put on a great show (chiddy bang, drake, minus the bear). I really think some of these autotuned artists are gonna ruin the concert experience. ( Ugh black eyed peas halftime show was horrible)


Steve jobs is definitely not the only person to blame for the digital music revolution, I think bon jovi is looking for an easy scapegoat target.
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I actually love the "iTunes" era. I never bought albums in record format. But CDs... ooooh yeah. I have a couple hundred of them and I'll tell you what:

WHAT A WASTE!!!

I'll never get rid of them. EVER. Most no one I know has that many. I'm proud of that. But they will most likely never see the light of day again and some part of me looks at that and thinks of all the money I wasted. All that variety I have is now online. I can find exactly what I like. And usually almost all CD's I got had only a few songs I liked. I'm serious when I say I was so AMAZED they day I realized I could make my own CD's with the songs I wanted. I saved myself so much time flipping through CD's. I had 12 I kept in my car (where I listened to music the most) with all the songs I actually liked. When MP3 CD's I could make and use in my car came out I was even happier. And the iPod just hit the sweet spot. My list of songs is only 2-3 songs per artist on average. I so rarely like more than that by most artists.

Its been that way for 16 years now. What can I say? I like my ability to get music I want now better than ever. Plus iTunes has a far far far larger selection than any music store I've ever been to.

*It should be noted that while I say iTunes in this response I do mean any place online like iTunes. I also hear most music for the first time from going through Youtube.*
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