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From all the tests I've seen regarding cpu bottlenecks it's completely negligible. Once games start using 4 or more cores, then I could see that being a problem but my cpu running @ 3.9ghz will not see any real difference in frame rates even when compared to a 990x.

My biggest bottleneck ATM is the 512mb VRAM on each of my gpu's.
My Q6600 bottlenecked my 470 to the degree of 30~ish FPS in BFBC2 and several thousand points in 3dMark Vantage. You have no chance with a 590, sorry to break it to ya.

Q6600 + 470, PhysX Enabled:


X6 + 470 at same clocks, PhysX Disabled:


Note the GPU scores, when the only change was the CPU!
Edited by Celeras - 3/15/11 at 9:32am
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Agreed, reason I'm not upgrading my GPU anymore is because i know I'm extremely close to bottle necking if I don't already.
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Nope A GTX295 shows something like a 25% of improvement when on a i5 2500K stock vs Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (on NOT cherry-picked tests). Now, if you take in mind that GTX590 will be like 2.5x the GTX295 then...and if you overclock the i5 2500k, more in my favour.

So, I would bet for a difference bigger than 30%.
Don't confuse bad drivers with CPUs bottlenecking GPUs. The ATI 6990 isn't bottlenecked by a Q9550 or X3. Nvidia has admitted that their drivers are faulty on anything less than an i7 and refuse to fix the problem or don't know how.

If the game threads are bottlenecking due to single thread IPC being worse on C2Quads/Phenom I compared to SB, that's a different story.


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My Q6600 bottlenecked my 470 to the degree of 30~ish FPS in BFBC2 and several thousand points in 3dMark Vantage. You have no chance with a 590, sorry to break it to ya.

Q6600 + 470, PhysX Enabled:


X6 + 470 at same clocks, PhysX Disabled:


Note the GPU scores, when the only change was the CPU!
Watch the GPU usage with Afterburner or Precision. I bet the GPU was not pegging 99% with the C2Quad. Nvidia drivers are the culprit. Also, leave PhysX off for both tests and redo.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 3/15/11 at 2:09pm
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Don't confuse bad drivers with CPUs bottlenecking GPUs. The ATI 6990 isn't bottlenecked by a Q9550 or X3. Nvidia has admitted that their drivers are faulty on anything less than an i7 and refuse to fix the problem or don't know how.

If the game threads are bottlenecking due to single thread IPC being worse on C2Quads/Phenom I compared to SB, that's a different story.
What?
Either way, the fact is that you get quite more performance with a Sandy Bridge vs Q6600, wether its drivers or not IDK how its important.

And...do you have any tests to back up your statements regarding ATI? I just don't see how could drivers mean so much...
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What?
Either way, the fact is that you get quite more performance with a Sandy Bridge vs Q6600, wether its drivers or not IDK how its important.

And...do you have any tests to back up your statements regarding ATI? I just don't see how could drivers mean so much...
You can see the BC2 sticky in the Nvidia section that has tons of quotes from Nvidia official forum by ManuelG stating the fact. They have been saying they're optimizing the drivers for C2Quads for 6+months now.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 3/15/11 at 3:32pm
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My Q6600 bottlenecked my 470 to the degree of 30~ish FPS in BFBC2 and several thousand points in 3dMark Vantage. You have no chance with a 590, sorry to break it to ya.

Q6600 + 470, PhysX Enabled:


X6 + 470 at same clocks, PhysX Disabled:


Note the GPU scores, when the only change was the CPU!
Q6600 OC? I moved from Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz to Core i7 @ 4.4Ghz and gained 19K to 19.5K GPU score GTX470 @ 800Mhz.
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You can see the BC2 sticky in the Nvidia section that has tons of quotes from Nvidia official forum by ManuelG stating the fact. They have been saying they're optimizing the drivers for C2Quads for 6+months now.
Are we talking about BFBC2 only or all the games in general?
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Q6600 OC? I moved from Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz to Core i7 @ 4.4Ghz and gained 19K to 19.5K GPU score GTX470 @ 800Mhz.
This is more realistic. But even a 500 point increase in vantage is pretty damn small. And that increase could have been due to the higher cpu clock speed as well.

Either way I will be replacing my 9800gtx+'s before replacing my cpu.
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Learn to spell your title OP
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Learn to spell your title OP
WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!!!

You don't want detalis on the 590 gtx?

It's Italian lol.
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