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Hey All, I just put together a new system switching over from an Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0Ghz to a X6 1099T 2.8Ghz CPU. I have never had anything but intel but thought since I do more video editing stuff that I should try the X6 due to price comparison of the Intels.

I have noticed that when doing multiple things such as installing programs, extracting large files, burning dvds or different things at the same time the system will often freeze up and not respond. Things seem to be quite slow whereas in comparison to my intel core2duo, I could install 2 or so things at the same time and it was not quite as bad, I could expect a lag time for things to respond and switch between windows, whereas with this X6 it is kind of unreliable in terms of whether I have to terminate the process of programs, tasks, wait until one of the tasks finishes or even restart.

Now in terms of video rendering and not doing anything else like extracting files, the computer performs good and faster then my prev setup, but it definitely is lacking when trying to perform certain tasks together as stated above compared to my older slower setup. The system is not Overclocked and nothing is running in the background, this is a fresh windows 7 install on a new Hardrive - Western Digital 2Tb WDears drive with a 600 watt psu.

I was wondering is this simply the way Amd vs intels performance issue or could it possibly be something else? And is there a way to diagnose if there are other issues with my recent upgrade? Here are the specs of the old computer


Old Computer
Intel Core2Duo 2.93Ghz E7500 Wolfdale
Gigabyte EP43-UD3L Motherboard
Kingston HyperX 4GB DDR2 PC-6400
EVGA Geforce GTX 460 768Mb DDR5 SoC
Edited by Archangelclk - 3/14/11 at 2:57pm
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I've not experienced any of the things you refer to, that is to say system freezing when doing large things, I would suspect your HDD for that, as those are all very disk intensive procedures, and since you only have 1 very large, somewhat slow (its 5400rpm right?) drive for everything, including your system that's what comes to mind for me (the disk heads are jumping all over trying to perform OS tasks as well as your request operations). I might suggest picking up like a 500GB spinpoint F3 (they're something along the lines of $35) that you can short stroke (or just leave normal) as your OS drive, and use the 2TB for disk intensive stuff, see if that doesn't help.

If not that, the other explanation is that while the X6 has more cores, each core individually is weaker, and thus anything single threaded will perform in an inferior manner. But it shouldn't lead to system hangs really.

EDIT: Quick edit before xd comes in here, he's going to harass you for dropping a 6 core into the MSI G45. The warning is basically beware of the mosfets on your board, it is 4+1 phase power, that heats those badboys up something fierce. You might want to look into swapping your mobo for something a little pricier (sadly) that has better power options.
Edited by ocpokey - 3/14/11 at 3:16pm
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The WDears is a 5400rpm drive? maybe this is the reason for the lagginess. Crap I bought it thinking it was a 7200rpm drive. Previously I was using my 260gb drive only which is 72000 rpm as my boot drive.

Also with the mobo and cpu, it was a combo package from www.ncix.com, so I figured it was good enough. I may try swapping the drives and using the 7200 rpm one as the main boot drive.
Edited by Archangelclk - 3/14/11 at 5:38pm
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You have 2 things you did wrong in the config.

You ve chosen the wrong motherboard and the wrong memory.
The board because is not suited for that CPU ,even if MSI lies that it is and the RAM because the Ripjaws seem to fail a lot (or seem to fail with MSI mobos).

The things you observe are abnormal you should have smootheness over there.

So choose a new motherboard and a new set of memory tested to comply wiht AMD memory controller (the tRFC default value usually shows you for what it was optimized Intel or AMD).

So avoid MSI 790X-G45 ,MSI 790XT-G45 , MSI 870A-G45/G54.G45 series seem to suck.
If you want MSI go for over 150 dollars mobos ,in fact look for boards from 150 and up on any vendor if you want that CPU to do nice things ,don t trow it in budget boards to kill it s pride .
   
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I've experienced the same issue on both Intel and AMD systems, on the Phenom II X2 555, X4 955, and a Xeon X3440 at 4.1ghz.

It's your hard drive.

I would highly recommend getting rid of the WD Green (seems they have high failure rates, and I have had several failures first hand experience) and get a Black or a Samsung F4 320gb or F3 500gb with a 1tb+ solely external.
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I've experienced the same issue on both Intel and AMD systems, on the Phenom II X2 555, X4 955, and a Xeon X3440 at 4.1ghz.

It's your hard drive.

I would highly recommend getting rid of the WD Green (seems they have high failure rates, and I have had several failures first hand experience) and get a Black or a Samsung F4 320gb or F3 500gb with a 1tb+ solely external.

Good point with the hard drives.
This can happen because of the SATA controller as well.

I fail to understand why would you use with a 1090 and a 5400 RPM HDD.
Isn t the video editing affected by using slow HDD-s ?!

+REP for both

Western Digital Black series all the way.Because the I/O performance is simply excellent .
Edited by Dromihetes - 3/14/11 at 5:52pm
   
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Good point with the hard drives.
This can happen because of the SATA controller as well.

I fail to understand why would you use with a 1090 and a 5400 RPM HDD.
Isn t the video editing affected by using slow HDD-s ?!

+REP for both

Western Digital Black series all the way.Because the I/O performance is simply excellent .
Not sure about video editing being affected by a slow HDD but if it's recording like via FRAPS, it does affect the performance.
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I just formatted and reinstalled everything, yes it was the hdd, the other stuff Ill keep that in mind for next time, as I usually ask around before I buy but they had a good bundle deal and I jumped on it. However I mainly got the x6 due to the cores in helping just pump out the videos faster as the i5s seemed to be still way more pricier in terms of performance/cost.

Thanks for your help guys I really appreciate it!
Edited by Archangelclk - 3/14/11 at 8:34pm
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Gave reps, also I just finished formatting and reinstalling fresh with the new Mobo Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 loving it so far, going to also overclock once i read through the forums.
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