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You guys may recall Tobit from [H] come over a bit before Christmas asking for a representative from OCN to join the Donor Advisory Board.

Essentially, representatives from the 5 biggest Folding teams (to begin with), Prof. Pande, and bruce from foldingforum.org would have access to a forum where we would discuss ways to open up communications between the Folders, and the people who actually run the Project. Pande Group have often be accused of keeping many things secret, and they wished to dispel that as soon as possible, so the main topic was how to open up communications between them and the Folders.

Probably not the best idea to start it up before Christmas, since activity sort of dwindled towards the turn of the year, but it was a start; the main topic and ideas were laid out, and we began discussing ways to improve the Project and the information revealed to the Folders. Obviously, Client v7 is coming out (soon), so that was one of the major points, and it's also part of the reason we've come to the conclusion we have.

On Prof. Pande's blog, you will now find a full changelog of Client v7, since the beginning. We feel this should dispel the thoughts that the client is nowhere near release. Also, with Client v7 will come FahCore_16, the new core which will be used for ATi/AMD GPUs. As the blog says, as long as this latest revision doesn't have huge bugs, it will probably be the version released to the public. They may yet make that Q1 date. The bug tracker for the new client will also be made public soon, so you can see the client development as it happens.

Another result is that the Beta forum on foldingforum.org will be opened up to the public in the near future. General members will not be able to post, but they will be able to read the threads that the current Beta testers are working on. This not only includes new clients, but also new WUs when they go into testing. (As an aside, if you wish to join the Beta team, you can apply here.)

This was a bit more difficult to decide on; there are pros and cons to giving this much transparency to the testing process. However, Prof. Pande agrees that the pros outweigh the cons in this case.


So, that's about it for now. We're still discussing other things, but I don't see any of them developing too much in the near future; most of the efforts will be going into getting Client v7 ready for release, and then dealing with the feedback when it does go live.

Enjoy.
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These stuck out to me in the changelog:
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* Use OS logical CPU count instead of CPUID counts.
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* Use core count not thread count for SMP autoconfiguration.
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* Another attempt at fixed i7 CPU core counts.
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* Second attempt to fix i7 CPU core detection.
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* Attempted to fix i7 CPU core detection.
I may be investing in true 8 core machines after v7 is released.
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Bump.

But yeah, the above won't be to everyone's liking.
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Originally Posted by sks72 View Post
These stuck out to me in the changelog:


I may be investing in true 8 core machines after v7 is released.
Does that mean it will not detect the extra threads from my I7 860's hyperthreading?? That would be a killer for -bigadv.

I hope I am just reading this wrong
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Oh my... Tobit is a beta tester by the way.
So who wants to ask questions?
Soon you guys will probably see all the cursing I do in the betateam forum.

*I kid, I kid*
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Bye bye -bigadv for alot of people.
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Bye bye -bigadv for alot of people.
Someone will figure out a way around it again, I hope
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Someone will figure out a way around it again, I hope
Yeah, but as soon as someone starts "hacking" folding to gain points it starts losing it's integrity as a tool to help and turns 100% into e-peen contest. The competition is a big draw for most I think, which there is nothing wrong with at all. I like trying to increase my PPD. But I don't want to be unethical about it either. Hopefully they decide to keep letting people with multi threaded cpus to keep doing -bigadv, unless it's turning out to be thrashing way too many returned WU's then I'd understand. But I also don't see why it wouldn't be helping keeping it the way it is now.
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Oh my... Tobit is a beta tester by the way.
Yes, but I'm not in a beta tester, so I know him as "Tobit from [H]".
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We want to give ATI donors a heads up that ATI does not support all of its GPUs with OpenCL (the series 3xxx are not supported and the series 4xxx does not have sufficient OpenCL support for efficient FAH calculations). For the short term, we will support both the older (Brook coded) ATI core 11, and the newer (OpenCL coded) ATI core 16, but we cannot support the Brook-based core for much longer. We plan to support ATI core 11 until September 1, 2011 (hopefully longer, but we want to get this on donors' radars). Closing support for a given platform is never a popular decision, but in this case, we have no choice due to the lack of vendor support of that platform.
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So now I'm able to say that it's pretty much 5000 series and up.
    
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