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I'm 100% sure I can find something to replace it. If a ram stick goes down, i can stick any old DDR3 in there to work. If the CPU goes down, I can stick any old AM3 chip in there. To many times I have worked with Dell/HP/Gateway blah blah and something is always just different enough to NOT work. There is a difference between just getting something to work for the time being and getting the EXACT same part number. Asus mobo goes down? Who cares, I got 2 MSI's and 1 Gigabyte that will work for now!
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I know you seem really set on building one, but I'll vouch for the Poweredge T310 suggestion. For about $1,000 you can get it with a Perc 6/i raid card. I've been playing with it for the last week or two and everything seems easy and well done; the inside is not a disaster at all. In fact, I showed some friends pictures and they couldn't believe that it was made by Dell.

You get a 3 year warranty with that as well so if anything serious does break, they'll fix it. I recommend buying one with one hard drive because dell really overcharges for storage, and then buy some 2TB disks from somewhere else to make a RAID 1 or something.

By the way, I've owned 2 other poweredge systems before this and never had any problems buying more memory that wasn't dell-approved or power supplies, etc.
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I'm 100% sure I can find something to replace it. If a ram stick goes down, i can stick any old DDR3 in there to work. If the CPU goes down, I can stick any old AM3 chip in there. To many times I have worked with Dell/HP/Gateway blah blah and something is always just different enough to NOT work. There is a difference between just getting something to work for the time being and getting the EXACT same part number. Asus mobo goes down? Who cares, I got 2 MSI's and 1 Gigabyte that will work for now!
That is pretty risky to just assume you will have the Registered DDR3 module, or the right desktop boards. Servers use special registered DIMM's with ECC to detect and correct memory errors, and cannot use standard desktop memory.

You have dealt with the cheap-end Dell/HP/Gateway, but there is a massive difference between the server stuff and the cheap-o stuff. There is a reason Dell/HP/Lenovo service just about everyone; it is because they are dead-nuts reliable in their service and replacement parts. Dell for instance guarantee's that the motherboard you order tomorrow will be identical to the replacement part you get if it dies in 3 years.

Also, if your Asus board goes down, replacement isn't as easy as slapping in a gigabit/MSI board, drivers are likely to be quite different, and when you are losing money, the last thing you want is to have to recover your data, reinstall the OS, then bring the data back on board.

How much revenue are you expecting to generate per day? What happens if the PSU blows in the server, how long will it be down for? Going with a real server will give you 2 of them in case one dies, resulting in zero down time and zero money lost.
    
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I was just saying that for the price he wants to spend he could build himself a server (which is what I do)... or he could buy a used enterprize class server from xbyte. I have had great luck with them. They next day shipped a replacement perc 6/i when our work one failed. Daniel schaefer who helped me was not only knowledgable but very helpful in getting me a rear pci bracket so I could run the perc 6/i on my home core2 duo media server. They shipped the bracket next day also at no charge to me.

I say go with what makes you comfortable, while still meeting your budget. I just wanted to give you options.

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