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Hi, I'm new to overclock.net as well as building computers.
I been doing some research on a Sandy Bridge build i plan to do as soon as the Rev. 3.0 motherboards are in stock again. I plan to use this computer for gaming, web surfing/researching, and video editing(and recording w/ Fraps + Hypercam). I have a Tritton AX720 headset which has virtual 5.1 surround sound and 4 speakers, so i need to have a motherboard with an integrated sound card or a separate sound card that supports it. I also would like to overclock the RAM, CPU, and GPU when i feel it is necessary. My budget is $2000, but i dont mind going over 10% if i get alot more for it. Here's the cheapest setup i would use:

Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Pro
GPU: MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr II
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB CAS 8 Dual Channel
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
CD drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R
Hard disk drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3
Cooling: CM Hyper 212+
Power Supply: 850W?
Monitor: Will get later
Mouse: Logitech G9x - Bought
Mouse Pad: Steelseries Qck - Bought
Keyboard: Leopold "Tenkeyless" Tactile Touch Keyboard - Bought

As far as i know, the cheap build i listed above would cost $1700 if i get a $200 monitor(although i don't mind spending $400), a $150 PSU(i would like a high quality one that will last a good 5 years+), and no aftermarket cooling. The parts with question marks are ones im unsure of what to get. I was thinking it would be cheaper to use the stock Intel heatsink + fan and buy something like the CM Hyper 212 Plus or possibly the NH-D14 later on. I would like to get at least 4.0Ghz on the CPU and i would be happy with 4.2Ghz. I dont how much power i would need, but i chose 850W because i was thinking in the future that it will be cheaper to SLI(two 570's in this case) then to upgrade the existing GPU. And i was thinking of getting an EVGA 570, if it fits the budget. Im open to any suggestions for a monitor as long as it is good for gaming, reading text for a few hours, and preferably is 24". I would pay more than $400 for the monitor, but i would need a good reason. My goal is to get as much as i can with that $2000, so i don't mind suggestions for pricier parts such as an SSD for a boot drive.

Thanks for your help!

Edit:
Possible Changes:
GPU: EVGA GTX 570
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB CAS 7 Dual Channel
Cooling: Kingston HyperX KHX-FAN Fans
Noctua NH-D14
Edited by nawon72 - 3/16/11 at 6:59pm
post #2 of 21
Here's a list of recommended power supplies from one of the local PSU gurus. Read some reviews then take your pick. I believe your system can happily run on a decent 550w PSU especially if you're only going for the 560ti, but I could be wrong here

As for the CPU, if you aren't doing any multithreaded/very CPU intensive things then it's pretty much useless to buy the 2600k. The 2500k is a very very good choice if you're only gaming.

As for cooling, the H70 is a good buy, it performs a little below the NH-D14 but is a fraction of the weight and doesnt take much to install.

But if you want a little more juice out of your CPU, I suggest buying an XSPC Rasa Kit, a fully pledged water cooling kit for only $130.
    
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I wasn't really interested in getting water cooling, partly because its my first build. Also i wont only be gaming on this thing, and sometimes i won't game at all(although i can also do the exact opposite). What sort of things are "multithreaded/very CPU intensive"? And i will be getting the EVGA GTX570 if i can fit it in the $2000 budget. That GPU might not increase the power consumption a whole lot more, but i was thinking that it may be cheaper in the future to go with SLI then to upgrade my existing card. And as i said in my first post, i wont be overclocking right away but instead will wait until i need the extra juice.
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72 views and one person helped? I hope that doesn't mean my build is that bad...
post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by nawon72 View Post
Hi, I'm new to overclock.net as well as building computers.
I been doing some research on a Sandy Bridge build i plan to do as soon as the Rev. 3.0 motherboards are in stock again. I plan to use this computer for gaming, web surfing/researching, and video editing(and recording w/ Fraps + Hypercam). I have a Tritton AX720 headset which has virtual 5.1 surround sound and 4 speakers, so i need to have a motherboard with an integrated sound card or a separate sound card that supports it. I also would like to overclock the RAM, CPU, and GPU when i feel it is necessary. My budget is $2000, but i dont mind going over 10% if i get alot more for it. Here's the cheapest setup i would use:

Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Pro
GPU: MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr II
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium
CD drive: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R
Hard disk drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3
Cooling: Stock?
Power Supply: 850W?
Monitor: 24"?
Mouse: Logitech G9x - Bought
Mouse Pad: Steelseries Qck - Bought
Keyboard: Leopold "Tenkeyless" Tactile Touch Keyboard - Bought

As far as i know, the cheap build i listed above would cost $1700 if i get a $200 monitor(although i don't mind spending $400), a $150 PSU(i would like a high quality one that will last a good 5 years+), and no aftermarket cooling. The parts with question marks are ones im unsure of what to get. I was thinking it would be cheaper to use the stock Intel heatsink + fan and buy something like the CM Hyper 212 Plus or possibly the NH-D14 later on. I would like to get at least 4.0Ghz on the CPU and i would be happy with 4.2Ghz. I dont how much power i would need, but i chose 850W because i was thinking in the future that it will be cheaper to SLI(two 570's in this case) then to upgrade the existing GPU. And i was thinking of getting an EVGA 570, if it fits the budget. Im open to any suggestions for a monitor as long as it is good for gaming, reading text for a few hours, and preferably is 24". I would pay more than $400 for the monitor, but i would need a good reason. My goal is to get as much as i can with that $2000, so i don't mind suggestions for pricier parts such as an SSD for a boot drive.

Thanks for your help!
Well, i'm not one of the gurus here but i can pass along what have learned from my own threads and what i have read in other threads.

On the video card, i suggest you get the 570 now so you'll not have to bother trying to sell the 560 later when you decide to SLI 570's, and if you decide not to SLI later you'll still be on top with the better of the 2 cards

The ram is fine, if you want a more performance for when you do those other applications, then go with same freq and volts but with higher cas 7-8 with better timings. Als o look for promos codes that are currently running, think theres a 15% discount one now

between these 2 coolers, CM Hyper 212 Plus and the NH-D14, its proven the Nh-D14 is much better (think it can be had somewhere for $60 or $70), but if your not going to overclock much the CM Hyper 212 Plus should suffice, but again if you think you'll need the Nh-D14 then get it now, not later. I also suggest going to the other areas of the OCN site and reading threads specifc to each of these, it help to reinforce your decision

If your getting the 850w on sale then get it (i've seen them on sale before) else i've read and been told that a 750w will do well for SLI 570's. I recommend gold rating in corsair or seasonic, again there are sales to be had, i recently purchased the seasonic x750 when it was on sale, i'm planning SLI 570's also, SLI 560's at the least

Cases and Monitors i suggest going to the appropriate threads and read a bit, those items tend to fall into preferrence.

an SSD at some point should help, myself i picked up 2 of the Spinpoint F3 for now, once i've fielded my rig a bit i'll decide then how much i really need/want an SSD. Prices and performance should be better by then too.

hope that helps /bow
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post #6 of 21
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On the video card, i suggest you get the 570 now so you'll not have to bother trying to sell the 560 later when you decide to SLI 570's, and if you decide not to SLI later you'll still be on top with the better of the 2 cards
I was actually asking whether or not it will be cheaper in the future to SLI 570's/560's, or just upgrade my existing card.

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The ram is fine, if you want a more performance for when you do those other applications, then go with same freq and volts but with higher cas 7-8 with better timings. Also look for promos codes that are currently running, think theres a 15% discount one now
Will i need a RAM fan to overclock? Or are the RAM heat sinks good enough. And what do you think about these:
RAM1
RAM2
RAM3
RAM4
RAM5
Which one of the above do you think i should go with, or do you have any other recommendations? The RAM has to last at least 3 years without upgrading, but preferably 5. So then i would need large enough ram to last that time, and thats why im unsure of getting 4x2GB over 2x4GB, even though it gives me more performance.

Some other questions i have:
1. Is 850W sufficient for SLI 570 and some overclocking?
2. Will my headset be used to its full potential or do i need a sound card?
3. Is it possible to change my boot drive to an SSD later on?
4. Can i raid 0 Spinpoint F3 later on?
5. Is they P8P67 Pro good enough for my purposes?
6. Can i use a LCD TV as a temporary monitor? (it has HDMI)
Edited by nawon72 - 3/16/11 at 1:20am
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That's a nice set of RAM
    
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1. Is 850W sufficient for SLI 570 and some overclocking?
Yes. A single 570 uses about 330w on full load <----innacurate. Dunno bout overclocking though

2. Will my headset be used to its full potential or do i need a sound card?
Dunno bout that headset

3. Is it possible to change my boot drive to an SSD later on?
Yes

4. Can i raid 0 Spinpoint F3 later on?
Yes, but you'll have to start over

5. Is they P8P67 Pro good enough for my purposes?
Very very good enough

6. Can i use a LCD TV as a temporary monitor? (it has HDMI)
yes
Edited by tryagainplss - 3/16/11 at 2:29am
    
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Get a SSD. On a $2k budget you'd be mad stupid not to get one .

I would recommend the new Intel 510 series, or wait for the OCZ Vertex 3s.
post #10 of 21
Your build is a bit expensive to me. I got my build below for about 1400 USD and I got a 120 crucial SSD. I upgraded froma Pentium 4 so this upgrade is absolutely amazing and blazing fast. I don't know if it is the SSD or the SB but absolutely fast. For the most part quality ram is quality ram. Just don't get a sucky brand and you should be find. I see a lot of people with the gskill. I happen to like pretty things and went with the ballistix and I love them. Mostly cause they work. As asus or msi ehhh it boils down to preference and to be honest if your unlucky to get a bad board or any other component it is more a result of just that than a bad company.
    
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