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From what I remember Germany has been planning to obtain around 33% of it's power generated by solar (and wind?) in the near future. I don't remember the details but there was a PBS show on it a year or so ago. They give large incentives to farm owners to use the land for solar panels. They also have the panels along their highways from what I recall. This may well be just a 'speeding up' of their already ongoing process.
I think I might have saw the same documentary, I'm pretty sure it was Sweden and not Germany though.
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post #22 of 95
Lol

They're scared about Japans' situation which was caused by a Tsunami and 40+ year old equipment.

But I do understand that they are shutting down old Nuclear Plants.

They should replace them with newer Nuclear plants.
post #23 of 95
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I think I might have saw the same documentary, I'm pretty sure it was Sweden and not Germany though.
Here ya go... it was more than a year ago, lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/bu...s/16solar.html
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post #24 of 95
Nice move Germ any.

We have the sun, our precious nuclear oven. We should make better use of it.
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post #25 of 95
Solar energy is alright and all, but on a massive scale it is a waste of money. The effeciency and the cost is way too much to make use of a solar farm.
A Nuclear Reactor is the safe as long as stringent safety protocols are implemeted. From what I learn, the japanese reactors failed because of the cooling system malfunctioning. If it didnt malfunction we wouldnt even be talking about replacing nuclear reactors.
    
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post #26 of 95
Quite a sad over reaction by Germany. If the Japanese plant had a better seawall/backup facilities then it wouldn't have been as big a problem, but heck, they survived an absolutely massive earthquake and tsunami at a place designed "only" to survive a 7.0 earthquake.

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I'm pretty sure that if you use the right systems, have the required land space, and can pump the money into it - you can use a combination of Solar & Wind energy to basically power a country. I think it was figured that 500,000 sq. kilometers would be able to power the entire world (via Electricity) in 2030. Use appropriate deserts in the USA, Central america, Africa, and Asia and it's likely that Solar power alone (depending on other natural concerns such as wildlife, other natural disasters, etc) and you could easily power 50% of the world just on that alone I would suspect. If other power forms are able to be used you could at least get rid of the need for nuclear energy if that's your thing. I'm scientifically fond of nuclear energy - however I feel it needs more refinement as the waste is something I'm very much opposed to as we can't get rid of it. If we could at least do the SciFi thing and just rocket the garbage into the sun every 20 years that'd be awesome, but those risks again - are just too great..

That's my $.02 anyways as cluttered as my thoughts are at the moment
That is a great idea, but how will the power get from the solar panels to the people who need it? Also, what happens at night?

The power source has to be close to the powers destination, which is the greatest cause of problems. New York, Hong Kong, and any other big city is not bordering on uninhabitable area's that would be good for solar production. If humans invent cheap room temperature super-conductors that transport electricity at no cost, then we could adopt those idea's, till then we need power near where it is used.
    
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I still think nuclear is one of the safest and clean energy used today. Maybe hydrogen power plan should be researched a bit more and harness the power from that. Wind and solar need a large footprint to make a significant amour of power. Nature gas is great as for coal, to much air pollution. Hydro electric is to expensive and need a good area to work properly. There also one more I think iirc it harnesses the heat from inside the ground and turned into super steam to run a turbine, which will then produce power. Idk how expensive that is. Btw I used to work in this field
    
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post #28 of 95
Great it's another way for businesses to fight each other and manhandle people. "OH NO! Nuclear power is dangerous because a few old designed reactors have problems after a 9.0 earthquake."

Just a pathetic excuse to keep us held back in the world. Maybe if the greedy money lovers invested more time in new designs or fusion the world would be a better place. But fusion is "too difficult" even though it would be safer. I really hate the time I live in. Fear mongering makes me incensed. Reminds me of the DC vs. AC crap.
     
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post #29 of 95
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I think a slow replacement of Nuclear is the way, look into something greener and less dangerous if there were ever a natural disaster.
There is nothing better than nuclear energy. No other energy source can come close to producing as much as energy as a nuclear plant. Solar panels and wind fields are a huge waste of land for the little amount of power they actually do produce. If we want to get rid of nuclear plants then the gov't needs to control the production of solar panels. If they controlled the production of solar panels and sold them to home owners/builders at a reasonable rate. Maybe then we could start to turn away from coal, water, and nuclear plants. But this will never happen because in the end the gov't would lose billions of dollars in tax revenue every year.
post #30 of 95
Like many here have mentioned, I believe putting money into R&D for greater efficiency in harnessing and processing solar energy would be the best bet.

Next one I do not hear of very often is Tidal energy.
Heck, if you could develop the science behind harnessing the energy of the earth's tides in the ocean (which to my knowledge operates nearly 24/7), somehow develop the tech to work even better if there were a tsunami/typhoon/hurricane/cyclone, perhaps you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
Save lives, and infrastructure along your coastlines, while gaining a great resource for the every growing needs for energy.

Of course this is just a pipe dream.
Edited by Xinc - 3/15/11 at 9:47am
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