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Sounds like a smart move, but i don't think we should necessarily give up on nuclear power. It is a great form of energy. We just need to have something like this able to withstand the worst of the worst.

I feel like Japan has done something that most industrialized nations have done. They put the nuclear reactors in a very strange place. Call me crazy, but in a tsunami prone area i don't think i would have built a reactor that close to the ocean and on the side of the island that would get pummeled by the wave.

Just something i was thinking about.

Still praying for the people there.
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post #42 of 95
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Originally Posted by Gnomepatrol;12741399 
Sounds like a smart move, but i don't think we should necessarily give up on nuclear power. It is a great form of energy. We just need to have something like this able to withstand the worst of the worst.

I feel like Japan has done something that most industrialized nations have done. They put the nuclear reactors in a very strange place. Call me crazy, but in a tsunami prone area i don't think i would have built a reactor that close to the ocean and on the side of the island that would get pummeled by the wave.

Just something i was thinking about.

Still praying for the people there.

Well they have to be near large bodies of water and there is only so much seacoast to go around lol
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post #43 of 95
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Originally Posted by strap624;12741385 
Nuclear is the perfect green energy. New reactors are nearly flawless.

So what about the waste afterwards ? How is that green lol ?

Nobody here can tell me that the Nuclear waste is green and or can be stored easily, the fact that we have to keep the stuff even in containment is not good.

I think more money should be put into R&D for such things as Fusion, Fusion would be better than Nuclear.
post #44 of 95
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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE;12739351 
Good move, nothing wrong with looking at alternatives and something safer.

You mean a safer alternative like nuclear reactors that aren't older than He-Man? Old tech is old.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krymore;12739726 
Wind farms are safe and work just fine. Denmark has huge wind farms off the coast that don’t effect birds or wind patterns. China also has a large amount of wind farms.

Solar is another safe alternative and is getting more and more efficient as the technology progresses. Heck I live in Florida where it’s sunny 300 days out of the year, yet we have very little solar power. Even new houses don’t have solar panels.

The problem is our energy policy. It’s all about oil. Big oil will make sure that they can squeeze as much money out of oil for as long as possible. While they are making all that money, they are buying up these alternative technologies so they will control them to. My electrical company progressive energy has all ready started buying solar farms so they can charge you for the something that should be free (think of it like bottle water). They are also working on laws that prevent people from creating their own energy. I am not going to get into the specifics but its true.

... How is buying solar farms like charging for bottled water? I'm against bottled water but unlike Florida I live in an area that isn't developing into a sinkhole due to over drafting wells. When you are charged for solar you are paying for the installation and upkeep of solar panels along with maintained connections to the electrical source. Think about this one for a second. Do you or the electric company pay for the repairs to a solar plant if there is a hurricane? If you have solar on your home and it gets wrecked that's your problem. Solar isn't free.

Can you point to what laws they are trying to pass against creating your own energy? There are some preventive laws that would make sense like where you can install them, the type, and how/if they connect to the grid. A house covered in solar panels and what not probably wouldn't help local property values if it made the home look like complete crap or like the other homes are next to an industrial site.

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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE;12741614 
So what about the waste afterwards ? How is that green lol ?

Nobody here can tell me that the Nuclear waste is green and or can be stored easily, the fact that we have to keep the stuff even in containment is not good.

I think more money should be put into R&D for such things as Fusion, Fusion would be better than Nuclear.

I'm too lazy to find a picture but you do realize that every stereotypical depiction of toxic or nuclear waste shows a green liquid right? So yes, I can tell you that nuclear waste is green.
Edited by Kirmie - 3/15/11 at 10:19am
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post #45 of 95
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Originally Posted by Rookie1337;12741088 
FUSION. FUSION. FUSION. The amount of power that we could potentially get from that is far greater. And if I recall correctly you don't have the nasty radiation or meltdown problems to worry about. Why? Because it just dies if it's not maintained. Sadly, it's underfunded so it too will remain a pipe dream.

Your tide harnessing idea isn't great because of the shoreline that would be taken up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zen00;12741132 
The other problem, asides from shore space being used up, with tidal is maintainance. That sea water is highly corrosive, and it's a struggle to keep up with it.

biggrin.gif

Yes, yes I know you're right. Fusion is the way to go.
Tidal, Like I said is a "pipe dream" redface.gif
Edited by Xinc - 3/15/11 at 10:27am
post #46 of 95
Giving up completetly on nuclear power generation at this point is not a very smart idea. Yes it does have the problem of its waste and what to do with it but would you rather have double the amount of coal plants instead?

For those who keep spouting solar and wind it takes a hell of a lot more area in these fields of generation to create the same amout of power a single nuclear powerplant creates.

I think fusion based generation could be the next jump but last I heard we are no where near getting this running.
post #47 of 95
Like AMD said; the future is fusion. How's the ITER project going?
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post #48 of 95
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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE;12741614 
So what about the waste afterwards ? How is that green lol ?

Nobody here can tell me that the Nuclear waste is green and or can be stored easily, the fact that we have to keep the stuff even in containment is not good.

I think more money should be put into R&D for such things as Fusion, Fusion would be better than Nuclear.

If more R&D occurred...but that is a decade plus away easily before the first plant would come online once funding was secured. And there aren't any real alternatives to nuclear for large scale power generation at this point-not that don't put out lots of crap into the atmosphere.
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post #49 of 95
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Originally Posted by Blindsay;12741547 
Well they have to be near large bodies of water and there is only so much seacoast to go around lol

Nobody said the bodies of water couldn't be man made. I don't think Japan has the topography to really support that idea en masse though.
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LOL at the nuclear waste arguments. Maybe the old ones should be shutdown since they're the inefficient models that create that. The new designs burn/consume/(however you want to put it) more efficiently. There's still some but not as much.

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