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Last I saw it only created fusion energy for a fraction of a second. Has there been any progress?
I believe so, but the biggest issue is that they have yet to actually extract energy; at the moment they have yet to actually have a net energy gain from the process.
    
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"Japan hit by Tsunami" *Worries about prices CPU*
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Thank God she shut down those reactors before a tsunami hits Germany!

owayte.

Er-

Thank God she shut down those reactors, they're much more likely to fail when struck by a 9.0 earthquake!

owayte.

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Sounds like a rash decision. There should have been a bigger push for a plan to 'upgrade or kill' the plants.

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People, just invest in Thorium reactors. They're safer than uranium and work just as well.
And it looks cool. I imagine it's what Thor's hammer is made of.
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We will move away from Nuclear one day so all is cool, Fusion is something I would like to see more about. However Germany really has moved in the right direction with windfarms etc, its nice to see how little the need Nuclear. As the UK is small and we have some of the best Wind and wave power, we could definitely move away from Nuclear, we just need the funds from the ''Right people''

I look forward to the change.
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The thorium based reactors seems like the best idea, just a quick read up on the material shows that its a much better material for a nuclear reactor than uranium. It produces alot more power and is much more widely available.
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We will move away from Nuclear one day so all is cool, Fusion is something I would like to see more about. However Germany really has moved in the right direction with windfarms etc, its nice to see how little the need Nuclear. As the UK is small and we have some of the best Wind and wave power, we could definitely move away from Nuclear, we just need the funds from the ''Right people''

I look forward to the change.
Ummm..Germany has moved ANYTHING but away from nuclear. Germany has made itself VERY dependent on its neighbors, i.e. France for energy as "Green" sources don't come close to cutting it and non-green sources are very difficult to get built due to environmental regs.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf43.html

Germany has in effect outsourced s great deal of its power generation needs. Yay for NIMBY. The plan as outlined to phase out reactors requires Germany to buy/outsource 25,000MW to its neighbors.
Edited by Skripka - 3/15/11 at 2:36pm
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Good move, nothing wrong with looking at alternatives and something safer.
Sorry but you are dead wrong, unless we make major breakthroughs in fusion we have NOTHING that can replace coal/oil aside from nuclear at this time. This isn't a lets really think about this and maybe we can do it. WE CAN'T look at the average power output of wind and solar, even a tiny bit of research will show why it is IMPOSSIBLE to power a major city with them, they are a nice little boost but nothing more and will be nothing more barring some major breakthrough.

The entire issue with the nuclear plants in japan is the cooling systems, the reactors themselves were 100% fine after the quake and tsunami but someone thought it would be a great idea apparently to build the backup generators outside instead of underground along with the reactors and they got knocked out when the waves hit.

Unless you want us to have to use more and more coal and oil plants to fill our ever increasing need of energy nuclear is the ONLY answer. I will repeat that ONLY, ONLY, ONLY answer. Do you have any idea how many windmills and solar panels would have to be built to replace even one of those generators? I guess Germany doesn't want any open country side anymore because they are gonna have to build hundreds of thousands of windmills and solar panels to replace all the power they are about to lose.


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We will move away from Nuclear one day so all is cool, Fusion is something I would like to see more about. However Germany really has moved in the right direction with windfarms etc, its nice to see how little the need Nuclear. As the UK is small and we have some of the best Wind and wave power, we could definitely move away from Nuclear, we just need the funds from the ''Right people''

I look forward to the change.
There is a reason many of the smartest people on our planet today are pushing nuclear. Obviously we will make a further breakthrough later but as of now there is nothing better.(well hydro is better but that is very limited to geography.)
Edited by scyy - 3/15/11 at 2:41pm
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Sorry but you are dead wrong, unless we make major breakthroughs in fusion we have NOTHING that can replace coal/oil aside from nuclear at this time. This isn't a lets really think about this and maybe we can do it. WE CAN'T look at the average power output of wind and solar, even a tiny bit of research will show why it is IMPOSSIBLE to power a major city with them, they are a nice little boost but nothing more and will be nothing more barring some major breakthrough.

The entire issue with the nuclear plants in japan is the cooling systems, the reactors themselves were 100% fine after the quake and tsunami but someone thought it would be a great idea apparently to build the backup generators outside instead of underground along with the reactors and they got knocked out when the waves hit. Unless you want us to have to use more and more coal and oil plants to fill our ever increasing need of energy nuclear is the ONLY answer. I will repeat that ONLY, ONLY, ONLY answer. Do you have any idea how many windmills and solar panels would have to be built to replace even one of those generators? I guess Germany doesn't want any open country side anymore because they are gonna have to build hundreds of thousands of windmills and solar panels to replace all the power they are about to lose.
Yup.

I'll put it this way, given current solar panel tech-the roof of Casa Skripka....covered entirely in solar panels...would barely generate enough electricity to power my sig rig on load.... even presuming high-noon levels of daylight 24/7 and presuming I am on the equator neither of which is true.
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Sorry but you are dead wrong, unless we make major breakthroughs in fusion we have NOTHING that can replace coal/oil aside from nuclear at this time. This isn't a lets really think about this and maybe we can do it. WE CAN'T look at the average power output of wind and solar, even a tiny bit of research will show why it is IMPOSSIBLE to power a major city with them, they are a nice little boost but nothing more and will be nothing more barring some major breakthrough.

The entire issue with the nuclear plants in japan is the cooling systems, the reactors themselves were 100% fine after the quake and tsunami but someone thought it would be a great idea apparently to build the backup generators outside instead of underground along with the reactors and they got knocked out when the waves hit.

Unless you want us to have to use more and more coal and oil plants to fill our ever increasing need of energy nuclear is the ONLY answer. I will repeat that ONLY, ONLY, ONLY answer. Do you have any idea how many windmills and solar panels would have to be built to replace even one of those generators? I guess Germany doesn't want any open country side anymore because they are gonna have to build hundreds of thousands of windmills and solar panels to replace all the power they are about to lose.




You have no idea what you are talking about, there is a reason many of the smartest people on our planet today are pushing nuclear. Obviously we will make a further breakthrough later but as of now there is nothing better.
Read my post you quoted.

Nothing wrong with LOOKING at alternatives.

I bolded it for you to help you see it
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