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Originally Posted by un-nefer View Post
And I doubt they are - more like a bunch of 800series mobo owners reading into it and getting it wrong.

You're basing all this bs hype on a single word - current - and that word is only there after a triple translation:
Japanese -> Swedish -> English

So many misunderstandings come from translations - hence "lost in translation".

So:
1) good luck if they even used the word "current"
2) good luck to working out the context in which it was used (if used)


lol, do you take a second to read what you post before posting it? AMD make the CPU, so it's hard to argue with the makes of the CPU if they say it will be made a specific way.



AMD has posted more tech info about Bulldozer in the lead up to its release then any other CPU they have released in the past. They have reps online in forums, they've been blogging about Bulldozer for almost a year and they've been releasing bits and pieces into the news for years.



W T F does this have to do with the fact that as of right now, AMD has said client bulldozer CPUs WILL NOT be compatible with AM3 socket?



Uness you are going to cut a pin off your BD, there is way you can "pops a BD chip into one of these boards", it simply won't fit.
You miss one point about "missing in translation". We aren't just going by the word current. This is the heading for the first table:

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BIOS Upgradable Supported AM3 models:
And I would in fact trust Asus on this one because they are the ones who have designed the motherboards and update the BIOS for them. They would know what's really going on so that their products accord to AMD's requirements.
    
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And I doubt they are - more like a bunch of 800series mobo owners reading into it and getting it wrong.

You're basing all this bs hype on a single word - current - and that word is only there after a triple translation:
Japanese -> Swedish -> English

So many misunderstandings come from translations - hence "lost in translation".

So:
1) good luck if they even used the word "current"
2) good luck to working out the context in which it was used (if used)

lol, do you take a second to read what you post before posting it? AMD make the CPU, so it's hard to argue with the makes of the CPU if they say it will be made a specific way.


AMD has posted more tech info about Bulldozer in the lead up to its release then any other CPU they have released in the past. They have reps online in forums, they've been blogging about Bulldozer for almost a year and they've been releasing bits and pieces into the news for years.


W T F does this have to do with the fact that as of right now, AMD has said client bulldozer CPUs WILL NOT be compatible with AM3 socket?


Uness you are going to cut a pin off your BD, there is way you can "pops a BD chip into one of these boards", it simply won't fit.
Looks like someone is a bit butthurt, didn't you get the memo?
http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/AM3_PLUS_Ready/

That's Chinese/Pinyin to English, not Japanese. And certainly didn't go through the Swedes first. And for a company that makes more than 4 times as much as AMD does, I'm sure they can afford decent translators, translators that can determine if "Upcoming" and "Current" are the same word. It says current, not upcoming.

AMD makes the CPU, yes. But they're the same people who said that all locked cores are defective but I'm rocking an unlocked CPU no problem. So like I said, I would agree with ASUS before AMD. If I'm wrong at Bulldozer's launch, you can quote me on this.

They only things they've really released are server-side. In comparison to Sandy Bridge, they are lacking in the info/leaked info department.
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there is suppose to be 942 pins for socket AM3+.

But look at socket AM3 and then AM3 processors

Socket AM3=941 pins
AM3 Processor= 938 pins

what i'm getting at is no one except AMD knows how many pins are going to be on the processors, but all we know is that AM3+ will have space for 942 pins. For all we know there could be exactly 941 pins on the processor but only AMD really knows.
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So now it's "gotta have an AM3b board"...

Just stop. Read the information that dynomutt linked and I linked you to. It's provided by ASUS. If there was such a discernation they would have SAID there was. They sure don't want someone coming back at them later cussing them out cause their warranty was voided and a brand new Bulldozer CPU. And don't think that some goof wouldn't send their Barrister after them either. It happens to companies every day.

So please read the info. And THEN make your comment. Oh hell here just read this...

[FONT="Century Gothic"]

Satisfied now?

~Ceadder
I'm going to laugh when you buy a BD CPU and trash it trying to stuff it into the AM3 socket.
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there is suppose to be 942 pins for socket AM3+.

But look at socket AM3 and then AM3 processors

Socket AM3=941 pins
AM3 Processor= 938 pins

what i'm getting at is no one except AMD knows how many pins are going to be on the processors, but all we know is that AM3+ will have space for 942 pins. For all we know there could be exactly 941 pins on the processor but only AMD really knows.
For the love of St. Pete. Go ahead and try to stuff a AM3 cpu into a AM2/2+ socket and then get back to me. Pin count on the CPU die can be equal to or less than socket pin count, it is the pin-out blockers that are important. Can't fit a square peg into a round hole.
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The only part on the Asus page that isnt translated etc that would point to AM3 compatability is this.

* BIOS Upgradable Supported AM3 models:

Does it mention the board needs an AM3+ socket too?? No
Does it mention it needs AMb3? No

Nothing to suggest they're sticking new sockets on, just updating the bios.
MSI stated the same the other week too.

People stating for fact (apart from relevant people in the industry) that they know for a fact it will or wont fit are just speculating. I should hope that ASUS and other manufacturers know the pinout by now though, and should also hope that the pinout has been finalised by AMD at this point in time.
The thing I dont get if it was true these AM3 boards were compatable, wouldnt AMD be making a big deal out of it?

PS AM3 cpus did fit in AM2+ sockets, it was the other way around that was incompatible.
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Uness you are going to cut a pin off your BD, there is way you can "pops a BD chip into one of these boards", it simply won't fit.
You still don't know that for sure. Until I actually see a BD chip, I won't fully believe anyone as there are so many conflicting statements.

On a side note, what's with all the pent up frustration and rage around this subject? This is just speculation about a product that we haven't even seen yet. Time for everyone to chill out.
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My guess is that it will be similar to the whole AM2+ idea:
"AMD confirmed that AM2 processors will work on AM2+ motherboards and AM2+ processors will work on AM2 motherboards. However, the operation of AM2+ processors on AM2 motherboards will be limited to the specifications of Socket AM2" - Wikipedia.org
    
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Ok, why is there a new socket then?
You can sure as hell use a AM3 CPU in a AM3b socket.
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Gigabyte is re-releasing some boards on AM3+ socket as rev 3.1. It doesn't mention in the article that ASUS is doing the same, but perhaps that is what they're doing here?
yeah, I think this is likely the case.

I don't ever recall ASUS listing motherboard revisions on their website.

gigabyte has though, and it pertains to the issue the thread is talking about.



GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket AM3 - GA-890FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.1)

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GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket AM3 - GA-890FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0)
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