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Ok, why is there a new socket then?
You can sure as hell use a AM3 CPU in a AM3b socket.
Yep thats true, but that could be for the enhanced BD?? Am sure manufacturers work months or so in advance. But again its just speculation, no one knows what its for or if it will/wont work untill weve got them in our hands with a bent pin or sat in a board working, but with some feature missing etc.

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It really doesn't look/sound like Asus even need to release a new revision. After all, that would imply you need to buy a new motherboard anyway (for the new revision). They are marketing the idea that you can already use an AM3+ CPU:

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Current owners of an AM3-based board* will make their AMD 8-Series motherboards compatible with the latest AM3+ CPUs with a simple BIOS** update from the official ASUS website.
This bit tells me that all current owners of an AM3-based board can make their motherboard compatible using a simple BIOS update. To state it very clearly: The OWNERS can MAKE their motherboards compatible.

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Current ASUS 890FX and 890GX series motherboards can be upgraded to enjoy the extra performance offered by future AM3+ CPUs.
This quote reiterates that current motherboards can be upgrade.

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* BIOS Upgradable Supported AM3 models:
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*** Upcoming ASUS M5A Series models (AM3+ socket with AMD 8-series chipsets):
These last two quotes reiterate again that first, there are already a few AM3-based motherboards that only require a BIOS update and that they are also releasing a few extra models for greater selection (mentioned in the page). I really don't know what all this "discussion" is about when the information is so crystal clear.

If Asus intended their AM3+ support to be based on new revisions, they would have absolutely and most definitely mentioned the word revision somewhere and moreover, listed it as a requirement on the table of current AM3-based motherboards that will be AM3+ compatible. Instead, the word revision is nowhere on the page and the only requirement on the list is the BIOS version (currently the Beta one). Also, the links link to current motherboards with no revision details whatsoever.

If Asus are indeed intending on requiring people to purchase a new revision of their motherboards, they REALLY need to change that page entirely so that the information reflects this. If so they would by now also have to apologise for the misinformation as from what they state, there is no other way to interpret the information provided. Whether or not some features of an AMD Bulldozer CPU don't work because the motherboards aren't fully optimised for AM3+ is another question left for the near future.

EDIT: Granted I want this all to be 100% true, which I believe it is, as it is in my interest to just be able to slap in an AMD Bulldozer CPU. However, if I had any doubts, I'd certainly voice them. My "analysis" of the page isn't just wishful thinking at work. If it turns out to be all complete crap (don't know how it could be unless Asus do a U-turn on it all), I'll just get Intel Ivy Bridge straight away...
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So, wait. Bulldozer doesn't have different pins? This is sweet. I can only think that every mobo will be able to do this then.
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I think Trogdor & Un-nefer already hit the nail on the head.

-With the quote from AMD John even stating our existing am3 socket will not fit the BD based chips.

-Motherboard manufacturers releasing new revisions that support AM3+ chips.

I think we are misconstruing the words "current motherboards" to mean what we have in our hands/in our systems right NOW.
When ASUS is probably stating "current motherboard model lines" meaning existing lineup of motherboards will support the chip.

I'm pretty sure we will see an update from ASUS clarifying the AM3+ support eventually.
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EDIT: Granted I want this all to be 100% true, which I believe it is, as it is in my interest to just be able to slap in an AMD Bulldozer CPU. However, if I had any doubts, I'd certainly voice them. My "analysis" of the page isn't just wishful thinking at work. If it turns out to be all complete crap (don't know how it could be unless Asus do a U-turn on it all), I'll just get Intel Ivy Bridge straight away...
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I would be ecstatic if it was true as well.
But either way, I'll probably just pick up an am3+ board anyhow.
(I have a CHIV myself running a 1090t)

Time will tell what's really going on.
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i cant wait for this.
 
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, I would be ecstatic if it was true as well.
But either way, I'll probably just pick up an am3+ board anyhow.
(I have a CHIV myself running a 1090t)

Time will tell what's really going on.
Indeed. June, was it?
    
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It will be new revision, so you would need to buy a new board.
Bulldozer have 1 more pin, so it won't physically fit in a AM3 socket.

Gigabyte have announce their new revision already too.

The good thing is, you know you will be able to find motherboard that support AM3+ for cheap (many good 100$ motherboard will get a new revision).
The problem with new revision (like Gigabyte), some vendor don't tell you the Rev (ncix) for exemple, when I bought my motherboard I got rev 2.1 when 2.2 was out for some time already.
    
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Meh, I'll be back to when ppl starts QQ because they can't fit their new BD cpu into their old Asus AM3 mobos
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post #100 of 244
If I need to buy a new motherboard, that'll be the end of AMD for me!
The only reason I'd consider Bulldozer is if I don't have to change a thing except the CPU.
    
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