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Your source is ONE mobo maker. On a site the was triple translated. Sure.....
You completely skipped over the part where a dozen people quoted a link to the Asus press release on the asus.com website, right?
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post #102 of 341
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I think ALLOT of people will be eating their words in a few months. Gee, I wonder why Gigabyte has a revision 3.1 for my motherboard. Oh yeah, it's because it has a AM3b socket to support BD. No BIOS updates for my revision 3.0. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
lol i see you like to argue just because you think you are right. Your the type of guy who will argue with a cop screaming, you cant arrest me for this....WHILE you are being arrested LOL.
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post #103 of 341
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...38425&start=25
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...138432#p200479

Really. Official word from AMD.

Quote:"Just talked to the desktop guys.

Bulldozer is supported in AM3+ only.

That is the official word from AMD.

And I will NOT ask any follow on questions, I don't work in desktop and I don't want to get pulled into answering their questions, this was a one time favor.

Over and out."

There is MY
Edited by Obakemono - 3/16/11 at 4:27pm
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post #104 of 341
Kk this is ridiculous now, I think its fair to say we just do not know whats happening, Maybe AMD wanted this, Look how much attention we've given it! Gosh gosh =']
   
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post #105 of 341
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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
SO an AMD engineer goes over to the client guys and asks them directly if BD will run/fit/work/whatever on an AM3 socket and he came back and said no. And no, I won't need any seating reservations for your crow stew, as in a different post I "speculated" that the BD cpu package could come in two different pin configs, so I covered my bases.
Show me where an AMD Engineer has stated this.

Last I saw..

JF-AMD has only stated that .. AMD will not support BD Chips on 800 series chipsets.

He never said, that it will not work. He just stated that AMD will not support people who do it.

AMD said the same thing, last year, about Core Unlocking; when they REMOVED the capality to do so, last year, from the 800 series chipsets...

But guess what!

The Motherboard manufacturers said..

"Oh yea? We'll show you! We're just going to add our OWN core unlockng features and we'll get better sales!" -- and they did!


So please, since you know oh so much about Zambezi, since.. obviously you must have a Zambezi so you know for an aboslute FACT that it is not physically possible to do what Asus says they are doing...

Then please, show us your proof!

I dare you.

Show us pictures of your Zambezi with the pin configuration on it.
Edited by cjc75 - 3/16/11 at 4:34pm
     
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post #106 of 341
Actually I do believe that an article was written where the Reviewer has "supposedly" contacted his unnamed source(gotta love that guy Unnamed Source) and he related just that conversation. I remember this because it was rubbed in my face by every know it all tom dick and harry that couldn't believe referenced sources. Go back in this thread and you'll see all kind of instances like that with a Manufacturer as source. lulz

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What "reviewers" ? Not sure how a product that is not out can be reviewed...

AMD (not just JF-AMD) said themselves that it wasn't compatible. I will try to find the quote and post it later... Maybe the pin numbers aren't different after all, but something else is different between AM3 and AM3+.

What I still just don't get is why AMD would egg their own face by allowing people to believe their old boards wouldn't work. Makes ZERO sense. I only see positives for AMD shouting from the tallest building that BD was compatible with AM3 because it gives them an clear advantage over Intel. They didn't and I am baffled. Anybody care to offer a thought?

Plus Asus is the only manufacturer to refer to "current" boards... other mobo makers are changing revisions or the sockets are now black. Anyone wanna tell me why Asus is special?
Because at the time those boards did not exist. In fact I was waiting for M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 to drop because it was one of the first entrants to have onboard 3.0 USB. Before all we had was Gigabyte and MSi offering adaptive standards. So the Engineers would then have been correct because there was nothing available at that time that was AM3 that could be modified to run Bulldozer.

My bro is not mad, but he's not happy that his M4A785 series board cannot run it. And that was out a few months before anything was written on the subject of what Bulldozer would or wouldn't do.

Also anyone that received a map of what AMD had planned and then wrote about it is a Reviewer imho. That's just the way the ball bounces in this game.

~Ceadder
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So how do we know what boards are AM3+? Cause asus advertises most of those boards as AM3 but they support it. Mine is AM3 but I haven't heard anything about it....
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lol i see you like to argue just because you think you are right. Your the type of guy who will argue with a cop screaming, you cant arrest me for this....WHILE you are being arrested LOL.
Really? I argue because I and many others have seen the proof from an AMD engineer. Not like fools like you who spout crap just to make yourself feel better.
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post #109 of 341
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http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...38425&start=25
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewto...138432#p200479

Really. Official word from AMD.

Quote:"Just talked to the desktop guys.

Bulldozer is supported in AM3+ only.

That is the official word from AMD.

And I will NOT ask any follow on questions, I don't work in desktop and I don't want to get pulled into answering their questions, this was a one time favor.

Over and out."

There is MY
Okay, so you are okay with a message that's been passed on several times through several people and then posted on the net instead of someone who is actually designing the components to work with BD? Give it up dude...

And JF is only responsible for marketing. He's in no way an engineer.

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Really? I argue because I and many others have seen the proof from an AMD engineer. Not like fools like you who spout crap just to make yourself feel better.
So who is that engineer you're talking about? And I haven't seen any pictures so far. You obviously have. Care to share?
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You guys don't think AMD will come out with something official over the next week about all of this?

Would be hard to imagine they wouldn't...
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