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Originally Posted by Squirrel View Post
Okay, so you are okay with a message that's been passed on several times through several people and then posted on the net instead of someone who is actually designing the components to work with BD? Give it up dude...

And JF is only responsible for marketing. He's in no way an engineer.



So who is that engineer you're talking about? And I haven't seen any pictures so far. You obviously have. Care to share?
You can say that about pretty much anything can't you?
 
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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
MSi announced something similar sometime earlier. Gigabyte is sure to follow them. Coulda offered pickled as well.

~Ceadder
Hey dont get me wrong I would love this to be true because I would go out tomorrow and grab a Crosshair IV Extreme and get rid of my crappy 790 GPT-UD3H!

Not sure about MSI but Gigabyte has announced that only new revisions of the 890fx boards (with an AM3+ socket) have bulldozer support, the fact that they had to announce new revisions with AM3+ socket instead of just stating there will be a bios update for AM3 is confusing to say the least!
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post #113 of 341
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So how do we know what boards are AM3+? Cause asus advertises most of those boards as AM3 but they support it. Mine is AM3 but I haven't heard anything about it....

Your board is also an nVidia based chipset.

Not an AMD based chipset.

Go ask nVidia, when THEY plan to offer support with their own Chipsets...

Otherwise, go buy an AMD based motherboard!
     
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post #114 of 341
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Hey dont get me wrong I would love this to be true because I would go out tomorrow and grab a Crosshair IV Extreme and get rid of my crappy 790 GPT-UD3H!

Not sure about MSI but Gigabyte has announced that only new revisions of the 890fx boards (with an AM3+ socket) have bulldozer support, the fact that they had to announce new revisions with AM3+ socket instead of just stating there will be a bios update for AM3 is confusing to say the least!
Not if Gigabyte weren't proactive in their manufacturing process or had already put the existing design to bed(completion for the non engineering folks) and didn't have the ability to halt production. Look at Asus with the MB issue on the Formula. They had THOUSANDS of Boards being shipped from a supplier that didn't even have the correct standoffs on the NB.

I believe that this is why Gigabyte has made that statement, if they didn't already have something in the works as MSi and Asus apparently did.

Btw that reply was nothing but good hearted ribbing. All good bro. It will all be sorted out in the wash at the end of the day.

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post #115 of 341
I LOVE ASUS! This is awesome!

Bulldozer has been in development for years. They more then likely had designs to work on a particular socket before fabrication. ASUS and other companies could have been in the know how and simply put extra holes in the design to allow the chip to start up. Will it support all features bulldozer has to offer? Probably not, but lets see what the performance differences are.
post #116 of 341
Famous JF-AMD quotes that have caused this confusion

Quote:
Originally Posted by JF-AMD
There is one bulldozer part for client, Zambezi. AMD is only supporting that product in AM3+ sockets, period.
Quote:
Just talked to the desktop guys.

Bulldozer is supported in AM3+ only.

That is the official word from AMD.

And I will NOT ask any follow on questions, I don't work in desktop and I don't want to get pulled into answering their questions, this was a one time favor.

Over and out.
Quote:
Originally posted by JF-AMD:
AM3: AM3 processors - yes; Bulldozer no
AM3+: AM3 processors - yes; Bulldozer yes

There is no way that BD will work in an AM3, there is nothing to "shut off"
And then... an interesting quote...

Quote:
JF-AMD has stated that AMD's official stance is that a motherboard manufacturer making a Zambezi chip run in an AM3 board via BIOS update is not supported. He doesn't say it is impossible.
If motherboard manufacturers ARE confirming that they have a work around for BD to fit in SOME AM3 motherboards, you'd think that more people would be happier about such a revelation.

If you notice in the quotes above, JF-AMD is not exactly an expert on the desktop side of things, he asked and was given an answer. Whether the motherboard manufacturers find a work around is outside of AMD's official stance on BD will be SUPPORTED on AM3+ only.
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If I could run a BD with only a bios upgrade to my GA-MA790XT-UD4P, it would kind of be a no-brainer to buy one wouldn't it?
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post #118 of 341
Could it be that BD will actually be run by AM3s'?!?!?

Sorry onoz I just couldn't hep masef from usin ur avvy to poke a little fun at the naysayers. lulz

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Not if Gigabyte weren't proactive in their manufacturing process or had already put the existing design to bed(completion for the non engineering folks) and didn't have the ability to halt production. Look at Asus with the MB issue on the Formula. They had THOUSANDS of Boards being shipped from a supplier that didn't even have the correct standoffs on the NB.

I believe that this is why Gigabyte has made that statement, if they didn't already have something in the works as MSi and Asus apparently did.

Btw that reply was nothing but good hearted ribbing. All good bro. It will all be sorted out in the wash at the end of the day.

~Ceadder
Interesting points. Certainly food for thought. Think I'll wait for an official announcement from AMD before I blow $400 on the Extreme though!

C'mon AMD! Please confirm this!
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Well gee, guess what guys!

I just called...

1-812-282-ASUS(2787)

Started asking questions, got transfered around several departments...

Finally ended up talking to a guy in Marketing, told me his name was Tim, who confirmed the event.asus.com Webpage as legit...

However, he told me that Page was published by Asus International, in Taiwan...and that he is still bound by NDA on any "specifics" but that the information is accurate AS PRINTED...

He also told me that ASUS USA will be publishing their own Press Release on the information within a few days.

Now unfortunately I can't prove that I made this phone call, but if there are still any doubters out there, then call that number, don't give up, keep asking questions... and you will probably get the same answer that I just got!

I am taking that answer... "accurate as printed" to mean just what it implies. There will be no "new revision" board requiring a new socket... but, I suppose we'll just have to wait a few days for ASUS USA to update their own web pages with their own information, and then we'll know for sure!
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