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Okay, looks like AMD FX series according to AMD does indeed support AM3+ only.

I think what ASUS is doing here is trying out a BIOS that will rearrange which of the socket contacts do what in a way that is similar to what happens on a proper AM3+ board and doing this via BIOS, so that the AM3+ CPU will run.

What this probably is, is an attempt to run AM3+ on AM3, but beyond AMD specifications. They probably tried this and it worked somehow, henceforth they market it to the public as a beta version to both get additional testing and prove it for other mobo manufacturers. Therefore making ASUS awesome, as this is the first time I have ever seen any motherboard manufacturer go this far. Which means AMD's FX series is probably going to be big. And also sooner than we all thought.
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If you notice, jeff came in here and said amd will not support, not will not work in am3 sockets.
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If you notice, jeff came in here and said amd will not support, not will not work in am3 sockets.
His name is John, but close enough

I'm also siding with the "AMD won't support it, but that doesn't mean it wont work" stance.
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His name is John, but close enough

I'm also siding with the "AMD won't support it, but that doesn't mean it wont work" stance.
Me too
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Okay, looks like AMD FX series according to AMD does indeed support AM3+ only.

I think what ASUS is doing here is trying out a BIOS that will rearrange which of the socket contacts do what in a way that is similar to what happens on a proper AM3+ board and doing this via BIOS, so that the AM3+ CPU will run.

What this probably is, is an attempt to run AM3+ on AM3, but beyond AMD specifications. They probably tried this and it worked somehow, henceforth they market it to the public as a beta version to both get additional testing and prove it for other mobo manufacturers. Therefore making ASUS awesome, as this is the first time I have ever seen any motherboard manufacturer go this far. Which means AMD's FX series is probably going to be big. And also sooner than we all thought.
That makes NO sense. You don't list a AM3+ BIOS on a board that doesn't support AM3+ unless it does. Get it?

Why would ASUS anywhere promote something like this unless it's true?

I mean you gotta have the BIOS to test the CPU for stability. So if they already have the AM3+ boards(they do) then why did it get to the AM3 phase of testing unless they are testing the CPU with the board?

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That makes NO sense. You don't list a AM3+ BIOS on a board that doesn't support AM3+ unless it does. Get it?

Why would ASUS anywhere promote something like this unless it's true?

~Ceadder
Uhh dude... He is saying the same thing you are. The thing that everybody is slowing starting to believe...

That BD is not SUPPORTED by AMD in socket AM3, but since the CPU will fit into said socket, ASUS is creating a BIOS that will let it run.

Thus it is outside of AMD spec, but ASUS is making that functionality available anyway on certain boards.
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Uhh dude... He is saying the same thing you are. The thing that everybody is slowing starting to believe...

That BD is not SUPPORTED by AMD in socket AM3, but since the CPU will fit into said socket, ASUS is creating a BIOS that will let it run.

Thus it is outside of AMD spec, but ASUS is making that functionality available anyway on certain boards.
Ahhhh okay I read it wrong then. My bad.

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So now the confusion should all be cleared up by now
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Any word on when Gigabytes new revision of the 890 (or was it 880?) boards with the AM3b socket will hit newegg?
    
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Uhh dude... He is saying the same thing you are. The thing that everybody is slowing starting to believe...

That BD is not SUPPORTED by AMD in socket AM3, but since the CPU will fit into said socket, ASUS is creating a BIOS that will let it run.

Thus it is outside of AMD spec, but ASUS is making that functionality available anyway on certain boards.

Precisely.

AMD takes the same stance on Core Unlocking; not to keep banging on that horse but it is a perfect example of whats happening here.

AMD will not support Core Unlocking, but it can still be done...

So sure, you CAN unlock the Cores on your Phenom II 555 x2, and make it into a fancy B55 x4.

BUT, AMD will not support you, if you do.. presuming they know it was done on your Chip... and by THEIR standards, by doing so to your Chip, you are now running your chip beyond AMD's design specifications for that Chip.

Because AMD does not support it, they do not intend for you to do it, so they will say the Chips are not designed to be run in this manner, even though the Chips can and do.


Its the same case with running SLI on an AMD Chipset.

They will say they do not support it, and say their chipsets are not designed to run SLI...

But you run an SLI Hack, and make it work and so you are running your AMD Chipset beyond what AMD will call its design specifications..
     
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