Originally Posted by cjc75
Then I do apologize sir, I probably mis-read what ya wrote as to imply that you had tried it too! But ya I've been poking into the ChIV Club thread of yours and reading some of the posts on it there as well!
No problem. I just didn't want anyone thinking that I said something that I didn't. Appreciate the follow up. I didn't figure you intentionally stated that. It's pretty easy in this thread to get the facts twizted, what with all this speculation and bravado being thrown around.
Originally Posted by ablearcher
I dunno, this mess convinced me to go Intel on my last upgrade round (to the old lga1156, but still an upgrade for me). I just wasn't going to get a mobo/platform that didn't support bulldozer, since Phenom II chips got massacred in Starcraft 2 & Black Ops reviews, I didn't want to be stuck with only them.
Then this news comes in..... argh. I still staying Intel until AMD cleans up it's mess. I don't care if it's the board vendors fault or now. AMD is seriously annoying me as an AMD customer with this silly and pointless cloak and dagger game over AM3+. It's also some 4 months before Bulldozer is supposed to be launched, and we still don't know what's up with mobo support. AMD reps say one thing. Their biggest board partners say another. This is tearing me apart on this. At least with Intel, I KNOW their LGA1156 socket will never get another update. LGA1155 is likely dead end at 4 cores. LGA1366 is EOL. AMD? I have no clue, and that lack of info is not convincing me to buy anything AMD right now.
I say BALDERDASH to the reviewers that trashed Phenom II over 2 stupid games. No offense but NO game not one uses 4 threads of code running at the same time. It's not yet done. So those reviewers were talkin out they azz and you fell right into their trap. I have no problems if you wanted something that would give you more oomph as that is what we all want.
But c'mon man you needlessly moved to Intel based on hyperbolic gobbledygook. And now you're here perpetuating it, no matter how innocently, regardless of AMD. I say AMD is CORRECTLY keeping their mouth shut over this with Ivy Bridge on the horizon. Intel will get their grubby mitts on their Zambezi chip soon enough. Why give them anything more than you have to? And if you know anything of the history of the Intel/AMD case, you would know that Intel is keen on doing anything and everything to remain at the top. I doubt that AMD will knock them off with Bulldozer, but it makes ZERO sense to tell them anything.
The MoBo vendors are doing enough of that as it is. AMD just wants to move us in the right direction to be able to give us more features. The vendors will only support that so long as it's not premature to their profit margin. Which it's looking like Zambezi going full on AM3+ might just fit that description.
AMD is going AM3+, Gigabyte is supporting this cause they have ZERO choice on the matter. They probably already had their entire product line in production and with the Sandy Bridge fiasco, had no interest in halting their production lines to a mid production run of AM3 capable boards that a simple BIOS would support. You're getting what you asked for only not in as clear a manner as you would like. So sorry.