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Naaaaaaaaaaa. I never trolled anyone, I stated facts and stood by what I said. All you two are doing is looking for a way to justify your position by defending Asus. As I predicted too, someone went and flashed their bios against Asus's warning, risking several hundred dollars worth of stuff. Don't come crying to the forums when your brand new BD CPU up and fries taking your mobo and who else knows with it since it was not "supported" and have the warranty voided and not honored by AMD. I hope Asus's RMA department will replace the CPU, but I doubt it. Or better yet, since all the features of BD are not active with the AM3 socket, I'll bet the farm that most will come here whining about how the CPU "sucks vs. Intel" blahblahblah. You guys are so predictable. So enjoy your slower, less featured old AM3 mobo with your shiny new BD cpu so you can feel better about having an over-inflated e-peen. I'll sit back with the popcorn watching the whiner Olympics and clap when you guys win the gold.
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post #232 of 341
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2)AMD isn't going to support this feature because the Phenom II has run its course and they want to move forward. If they stay on the AM3 platform they're as good as toast. They know this. They want to remain competitive with Intel while trying to give their customers the best bang for their buck. They know that the low guy on the totem pole can only afford modest gains on their systems. We're GENERALLY upgrading by piecemeal maybe 2 or 3 components but rarely more. I went for the Crosshair cause I wanted to OC but allow my system room to grow. I have that. I still have a couple series of CPUs' I can upgrade to thankully to Bulldozer.
This point is completely moot as Intel left Netburst behind just fine without leaving socket 775
    
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Naaaaaaaaaaa. I never trolled anyone, I stated facts and stood by what I said. All you two are doing is looking for a way to justify your position by defending Asus. As I predicted too, someone went and flashed their bios against Asus's warning, risking several hundred dollars worth of stuff. Don't come crying to the forums when your brand new BD CPU up and fries taking your mobo and who else knows with it since it was not "supported" and have the warranty voided and not honored by AMD. I hope Asus's RMA department will replace the CPU, but I doubt it. Or better yet, since all the features of BD are not active with the AM3 socket, I'll bet the farm that most will come here whining about how the CPU "sucks vs. Intel" blahblahblah. You guys are so predictable. So enjoy your slower, less featured old AM3 mobo with your shiny new BD cpu so you can feel better about having an over-inflated e-peen. I'll sit back with the popcorn watching the whiner Olympics and clap when you guys win the gold.
Lol your a walking bafoon...u come in here over and over saying pins are different, it will not work. Now you are saying it will work but might damage them or run like crap...which is it?
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post #234 of 341
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Just a suggestion, acually post a response. These 1 emoticon's make you look like your nothing but a trolling idiot.
Are you saying he isn't one?

I'm going to stop following this discussion until some more news comes out. Same thing gets said every other post and the same people continue to argue against it with nothing but their own speculation. There is an official announcement from a board manufacturer that their current boards will support BD with nothing but a bios flash. I have no idea how someone could misinterpret that or even call that a lie without any support information.

And frankly, why would anyone be against backward supportability anyways. If it doesn't affect the performance of BD in AM3+ sockets why would someone care if others can run it in their older boards. If anything you would want more people to buy BD and support AMD. Healthy competition between AMD and Intel only benefits consumers.
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Are you saying he isn't one?

I'm going to stop following this discussion until some more news comes out. Same thing gets said every other post and the same people continue to argue against it with nothing but their own speculation. There is an official announcement from a board manufacturer that their current boards will support BD with nothing but a bios flash. I have no idea how someone could misinterpret that or even call that a lie without any support information.

And frankly, why would anyone be against backward supportability anyways. If it doesn't affect the performance of BD in AM3+ sockets why would someone care if others can run it in their older boards. If anything you would want more people to buy BD and support AMD. Healthy competition between AMD and Intel only benefits consumers.
His statements are starting to put him in that category. I have been reserving judgement but his last post where he contradicted himself like 7 times kinda tipped me in that direction
Edited by Blue Destroyer - 3/17/11 at 8:48pm
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post #236 of 341
woah, that was wierd, my post seems to have dissappeared

EDIT: oh... I see why. Thanks!!
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Lol your a walking bafoon...u come in here over and over saying pins are different, it will not work. Now you are saying it will work but might damage them or run like crap...which is it?
Where did I say it would work? Stop putting words into my mouth to make yourself feel better in the arguement.

Oh, I came over here and said that AM3 and AM3b sockets were different, which is the truth. Are you saying they are the same? I never said once that the CPU has XXX pin count, NEVER. SO who looks like the ass now? Keep back pedaling, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole.
Edited by Obakemono - 3/17/11 at 9:17pm
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post #238 of 341
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And frankly, why would anyone be against backward supportability anyways. If it doesn't affect the performance of BD in AM3+ sockets why would someone care if others can run it in their older boards. If anything you would want more people to buy BD and support AMD. Healthy competition between AMD and Intel only benefits consumers.
I never said I was against backward compatability, AMD has done that with BD. The Mobo makers are trying to get a work-around to sell all their older AM3 boards so they don't loose money. So in the end, who looses? We do as customers, because we will go out and buy the new CPU and save a buck and not have to buy a new mobo, then find out that all the features that you paid for in the CPU cannot be used because your old mobo does not support all said features. It is like stuffing a newer, more powerful engine in a POS rust bucket just because the car maker said you could, then come to find out the new motor destroys the car or you never can use the full power unless you have a new car to work with the new motor.
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post #239 of 341
Lol I find it funny how the troll is now starting to accept the truth while still denying his stupidity.

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Where did I say it would work? Stop putting words into my mouth to make yourself feel better in the arguement.

Oh, I came over here and said that AM3 and AM3b sockets were different, which is the truth. Are you saying they are the same? I never said once that the CPU has XXX pin count, NEVER. SO who looks like the ass now? Keep back pedaling, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole.
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Um, it is physically impossible to use BD in a AM3 socket, period (based on the info we have at the moment).[...]
You clearly said that BD won't have the right amount of pins or arrangement of pins to fit into an AM3 socket as can be seen by the use of the word "physically". You didn't mean "Oh it'll fit but won't work and fry up". And you didn't just say "herp derp, the sockets are different"

Just stop, and move on. If anyone is looking like an ass or digging a deeper hole, then it's you.
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Lol I find it funny how the troll is now starting to accept the truth while still denying his stupidity.





You clearly said that BD won't have the right amount of pins or arrangement of pins to fit into an AM3 socket as can be seen by the use of the word "physically". You didn't mean "Oh it'll fit but won't work and fry up". And you didn't just say "herp derp, the sockets are different"

Just stop, and move on. If anyone is looking like an ass or digging a deeper hole, then it's you.
Jeezus, ty you know how hard it is to search on a dam phone. Saved me the trouble.
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