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I for one cannot imagine why Asus, major computer parts manufacturer, would post a bios for a CURRENT motherboard that states it is for AM3+ testing if it didn't support it.

If the bios update was just for some small testing group, do you think it would be posted for global download? Me neither.

Cheers to Asus if the Crosshair IV does support Bulldozer. That will be sweet.
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Originally Posted by OutOfBalanceOX View Post
This point is completely moot as Intel left Netburst behind just fine without leaving socket 775
Intel out of Socket 775 yet?

You point to a dead socket and claim that makes my 2nd statement moot? What are you on? An can I have some?

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Strike oil yet?

Man leave for a few hours and this thread erupts like Vesuvius.

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that last analogy is bad.... Most gpu manufacturers do support overclocking... They even make overclocked cards all the time. msi,xfx,asus ect...
Eh, no they don't. Just because they make overclocked cards doesn't mean they support overclocking.

MSI doesn't support overclocking:
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Originally Posted by Limited Warranty Exclusions
1. Products damaged by any catastrophe, accident or from neglect, misuse, fault, improper assembly, improper maintenance, inadequate return packaging, or negligence by the customer or any third party. There will be no warranty for external cause to the Products such as, but not limited to, failure of or faulty electric power, air conditioning, operator error, failure or malfunction of any data communications system. MSI will not repair or replace product that has not been sold or leased to customer or any third party.
Nor does Asus:
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◎ Warranty invalid if damage/dysfunction caused by improper handling/usage, destruction.
The same goes for Sapphire, and I can't be bothered to look up the others.

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Originally Posted by JCPUser View Post
This is entirely your opinion and you have nothing to back this up. So let's wait and see...
Economics 101. I can easily back it up by drawing parallels with the core unlock feature. Instead of buying a 2 core and unlocking it to a quad or tri, they want you to buy a quad core right away. It's really simple, if you think about it. Besides, I said it's "more likely", not that that is the sole determinant
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Gigabyte's new revisions are AM3+ compatible as well [or so they claim]. Rev 3.1 of the 870a board:


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Get Ready for New Generation of 32nm AMD AM3+ CPU:
GIGABYTE's AMD motherboards are ready to support new generation of 32nm AMD AM3+ multi-core processors, delivering the very best platform for multitasking, multimedia and high performance gaming.
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3786#ov
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Gigabyte's new revisions are AM3+ compatible as well [or so they claim]. Rev 3.1 of the 870a board:




http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3786#ov
Yep, any of the rev3.1 and most of the rev3.0 models "should" work/be BD ready. This includes the 890gx/fx models too . Just have to make sure they have the "ready for AM3+ cpu" information and you're good to go
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PLLLLEASE BIOSTAR, make it compatible! D:
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Yep, any of the rev3.1 and most of the rev3.0 models "should" work/be BD ready.
rev3.1 has an AM3b socket, and that is the only reason they say it supports BD.

rev3.0 has AM3 and no where does Gigabyte say that rev3.0 will support BD.

Instead of spreading bs and confusing everyone with this crap, just wait for an official word from AMD.
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rev3.1 has an AM3b socket, and that is the only reason they say it supports BD.

rev3.0 has AM3 and no where does Gigabyte say that rev3.0 will support BD.

Instead of spreading bs and confusing everyone with this crap, just wait for an official word from AMD.
Its not confusing if you are following along from the beginning.

Asus has a BIOS update that makes Bulldozer possible on a limited number of boards. Mostly their high dollar platforms. Starting at the M4A89GTD series and up to the Crosshair IV Extreme.

Apparently MSi has a BIOS update as well. Not sure since I don't go there except for Afterburner. I probably should check but we have MSi in the house so I let them speak up for themselves.

Gigabyte however to my knowledge only has the AM3 board that doesn't support Bulldozer. However not to be outdone they put out the word that their AM3+ boards will be out shortly.

How did that guy muddy anything that wasn't already muddy? Yeah some of his info is off but that happens. Nobody but you is perfect it seems.

JF-AMD already put the word out that AMD has not changed their stance to his knowledge. That they do not support Bulldozer on an AM3 platform. So what more is to be said there? It's not up to AMD anyway. It's up to the manufacturers who make the boards that run the AMD chips. AMD has some say here sure but they don't want to get into a custody battle with the vendors. If you run BD in an AM3 board whose vendor supports it, I'd bet that AMD would honor the warranty should their CPU fail as a result. It makes no sense for them to be confrontational. The vendors could just walk away and leave AMD floundering like a fish out of water if they did.

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AMD has some say here sure but they don't want to get into a custody battle with the vendors. If you run BD in an AM3 board whose vendor supports it, I'd bet that AMD would honor the warranty should their CPU fail as a result. It makes no sense for them to be confrontational. The vendors could just walk away and leave AMD floundering like a fish out of water if they did.
ASUS and other mobo makers don't have AMD over a barrel on this and AMD is not going to honor a warranty for a CPU socket combination that they don't support. If they honor it... that's called support.

Furthermore, if one mobo maker gets mad and leaves AMDs partnership, then it is more money for the other partners... with little effect on AMD. If they all leave at the same time to screw AMD, then that is called collusion and is illegal.

If AMD had proof of you trying to unlock cores on your CPU which resulted in it frying. Do you think they would honor the warranty? No. Of course, I am sure people will just lie and say "nope, that CPU never got within 10 feet of an AM3 socket board".
Edited by JCPUser - 3/18/11 at 10:44pm
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ASUS and other mobo makers don't have AMD over a barrel on this and AMD is not going to honor a warranty for a CPU socket combination that they don't support. If they honor it... that's called support.

Furthermore, if one mobo maker gets mad and leaves AMDs partnership, then it is more money for the other partners... with little effect on AMD. If they all leave at the same time to screw AMD, then that is called collusion and is illegal.

If AMD had proof of you trying to unlock cores on your CPU which resulted in it frying. Do you think they would honor the warranty? No. Of course, I am sure people will just lie and say "nope, that CPU never got within 10 feet of an AM3 socket board".


Apparently you don't understand that the Board manufacturers make Intel boards too.

But hey how's this idea. You put up a 5 spot and I'll put up a Tenner. We'll see if AMD would warranty this or not. Cause as long as it fits w/o modification with a legitimate BIOS to make it work as put forth by the MoBo manufacturers, they pretty much have no other choice but to follow along. This is NOT Intel here folks. They tell you they won't support it so that you won't go out on your own and do it anyway without Manufacturer support.

They won't warranty your CPU if you have an aftermarket cooler either. How many of you have one of those.

Not me.(nevermind my CPU has been lapped)

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