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I just took a real close look at the ga890fxa-ud5 rev3.1 socket at the gigabyte web site. I then compared it to an AM3 mobo that I had. The AM3+ socket has one of the blocked-out connectors in the upper right corner unblocked. I took an exact-o knife and scratched the plastic block off of the AM3 mobo, and found that there are contacts at both the hole locations.

Now, other than pin assignment, ( a BIOS update ) the only physical differance I can see between the AM3 and the AM3+ in one pin being unblocked. I took care of that in about 5 min with an exact-o knife.

You gentlemen have any other thoughts?

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I was just comparing the physical differance in the two sockets. I read chit-chat about how the dozer won't fit the AM3 socket do to pin count.

So, I checked it out.

The 890FX chipset may or may not be able to activate all the functions of the dozer. BUT, a little creative enginering and a BIOS update, a resorceful user could do some modes to an AM3 socket and plunk a dozer on it.
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post #314 of 341
BD is 941 pins (AM3) or less anyway. Heck, I dunno why this thread is still being posted in... AMD has made their position clear and so has ASUS. BD will fit and ASUS will write a BIOS for it.

Lets go home now.
Edited by JCPUser - 3/20/11 at 7:21am
post #315 of 341
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BD is 941 pins (AM3) or less anyway. Heck, I dunno why this thread is still being posted in... AMD has made their position clear and so has ASUS. BD will fit and ASUS will write a BIOS for it.

Lets go home now.
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post #316 of 341
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BD is 941 pins (AM3) or less anyway. Heck, I dunno why this thread is still being posted in... AMD has made their position clear and so has ASUS. BD will fit and ASUS will write a BIOS for it.

Lets go home now.
BD is 942 pins ( AM3+ ) Phenom 2 is 941 pins ( AM3 )
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The problem isn't just physically fitting in the socket, it's the pin functions.

Pinouts were designed for certain sockets, we still don't know for sure if the pin count, arrangement, or functions are similar to AM3 processors. Assuming Asus isn't smoking crack it appears the chips will physically fit though there are most likely going to be other issues. I seriously doubt there are no differences other than an extra pin between socket AM3+ and AM3 especially considering how AMD was pushing socket AM3+ performance over AM3.
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Originally Posted by headmixer;12800122[B
]I was just comparing the physical differance in the two sockets[/B]. I read chit-chat about how the dozer won't fit the AM3 socket do to pin count.

So, I checked it out.

The 890FX chipset may or may not be able to activate all the functions of the dozer. BUT, a little creative enginering and a BIOS update, a resorceful user could do some modes to an AM3 socket and plunk a dozer on it.
No you said you took a knife to your socket, Scratched off the plsstic and seen contacts in the blanked off pin holes...
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BD is 942 pins ( AM3+ ) Phenom 2 is 941 pins ( AM3 )
Do some research before posting something false.

Thurban has 938 pins even though the socket has 941. Nobody in the know has ever said BD will use all the 942 pins in AM3+.

Taking ASUS at their word, BD has no more than 941 pins in same config as AM3. I doubt they are marketing the impossible. As for the pin functions, I am sure they are going to take care of that in the BIOS.
Edited by JCPUser - 3/20/11 at 8:39am
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Do some research before posting something false.

Thurban has 938 pins even though the socket has 941. Nobody in the know has ever said BD will use all the 942 pins in AM3+.

Taking ASUS at their word, BD has no more than 941 pins in same config as AM3. I doubt they are marketing the impossible. As for the pin functions, I am sure they are going to take care of that in the BIOS.
Assuming those functions are able to be fixed with a BIOS update, AMD felt the need for socket AM3+ so I'd say it's safe to assume it's going to be crippled in one way or another.
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