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I guess I won't be upgrading my motherboard any time soon.
    
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What's with all the doubters?

OFFICIAL: http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/AM3_PLUS_Ready/
Um, it is physically impossible to use BD in a AM3 socket, period (based on the info we have at the moment). I think Asus has gone off on a tangent with this. "Current" motherboards can mean that the currently produced mobos just get the new AM3b socket, a bios update and they spit it out with a newer revision number. That is what Gigabyte is doing.
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Um, it is physically impossible to use BD in a AM3 socket, period (based on the info we have at the moment). I think Asus has gone off on a tangent with this. "Current" motherboards can mean that the currently produced mobos just get the new AM3b socket, a bios update and they spit it out with a newer revision number. That is what Gigabyte is doing.
Basically, this. They're trying to prevent people from holding off buying a new motherboard until after BD drops.
    
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post #64 of 341
Hhhmm

There's certainly something weird going on here, either the pin counts are not we've been lead to believe or they've been using revised sockets for sometime as just mentioned (doesn't look like it from the Asus photos on their site), or someones going to get egg on their face.

If BD does fit straight into an old AM3 socket and works with a bios update, then frankly i'll be disappointed. We want a cpu that ushers in a new era for AMD, not one that rehashes the past, having backwards compatiblity with AM3 cpus is one thing, but this makes BD look like a rehash of Phenom, nothing wrong with Phenom, but we want something new.

Furthermore, if Asus's support for BD in their current boards is anything like their support for my board when Thuban was released (it was on a select list of supporting boards like this one http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/AM3_PLUS_Ready/) then BD will not work very well in them. It took four bios revisions to get the multipliers reading correctly, and even today, nearly a year later, fsb overclocking is almost impossible, you're lucky if you can reach 215Mhz on my board, whilst with the 940 I had before it would do 280Mhz.
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post #65 of 341
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Basically, this. They're trying to prevent people from holding off buying a new motherboard until after BD drops.
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Um, it is physically impossible to use BD in a AM3 socket, period (based on the info we have at the moment). I think Asus has gone off on a tangent with this. "Current" motherboards can mean that the currently produced mobos just get the new AM3b socket, a bios update and they spit it out with a newer revision number. That is what Gigabyte is doing.

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Current owners of an AM3-based board* will make their AMD 8-Series motherboards compatible with the latest AM3+ CPUs with a simple BIOS** update from the official ASUS website.
OWNERS. Not somebody who is THINKING of buying a new AM3 motherboard. OWNERS. Someone who already OWNS it.



And if you read further:
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Current ASUS 890FX and 890GX series motherboards can be upgraded to enjoy the extra performance offered by future AM3+ CPUs. ASUS will also be releasing*** the AMD 8-Series Chipset motherboards based on 880G and 870 as well as the 760G Chipset on the AM3+ socket for increased selection so users can enjoy AM3 and AM3+ CPUs.
They are clearly stating that CURRENT mainboards will be supported and they will ALSO be updating their 8-Series lineups with a new AM3+ socket.

And if you go further down, it lists a BIOS already. Version 3012, that's the one I posted yesterday saying that it will likely be the one that will add BD support.
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post #66 of 341
Booyaa for the Extreme

EDIT : Just emailed ASUS to see if this is legit or if it'll only work in certain revised motherboards.
Edited by almighty15 - 3/16/11 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by purpleannex View Post
We want a cpu that ushers in a new era for AMD, not one that rehashes the past, having backwards compatiblity with AM3 cpus is one thing, but this makes BD look like a rehash of Phenom, nothing wrong with Phenom, but we want something new.
Speak for yourself, bud. If Bulldozer fits AM3, I will be one happy dude, and will praise AMD.
post #68 of 341
Even if they do fit into the revised motherboards, the 800 series chipset will not have all the features that the 900 series will. Thus, you won't be able to take advantage of all the extra features Bulldozer has to offer.
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Even if they do fit into the revised motherboards, the 800 series chipset will not have all the features that the 900 series will. Thus, you won't be able to take advantage of all the extra features Bulldozer has to offer.
Other then the improved Turbo boost BD doesn't really do anything special feature wise.

What's special about it is the architecture...

AM3b will have all the CPU functions that a true AM3+ socket will.
post #70 of 341
no love for the 790FX boards? got thuban working with a bios update. would be awesome if I can use it again for bulldozer hekhek
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