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Originally Posted by thealex132;12754852 
So then if Corsairs (for EG) 6+2pin can provide 150w then their 6 pins can provide 150w therefore a 6 pin to 8 pin would be 100% fine. I thought you said it wasn't fine?

Where did I say that?
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Originally Posted by thealex132;12754852 
This thread is more saying 'don't buy a bad PSU'

At least check the ampacity of the various connections available, and balance the load as much as possible.
Edited by Arctucas - 3/16/11 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by thealex132;12754852 
So then if Corsairs (for EG) 6+2pin can provide 150w then their 6 pins can provide 150w therefore a 6 pin to 8 pin would be 100% fine. I thought you said it wasn't fine? This thread is more saying 'don't buy a bad PSU'


Thread title states "Potential risks of using PCI-E adapters", and is not about "buying a bad PSU".

This thread is NOT about whether or not a PCI-E 6-Pin can deliver 150W, the thread is about using PCI-E 6-Pin to 8-Pin adapters on 12v rails, that are potentially only designed for PCI-E 6-Pin connections. I.E amperage limitations.
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Originally Posted by Arctucas;12754893 
Where did I say that?



At least check the ampacity of the various connections available, and balance the load as much as possible.

NVM thought you were OP for a sec redface.gif
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Originally Posted by xtremetechuk;12754969 
Thread title states "Potential risks of using PCI-E adapters", and is not about "buying a bad PSU".

This thread is NOT about whether or not a PCI-E 6-Pin can deliver 150W, the thread is about using PCI-E 6-Pin to 8-Pin adapters on 12v rails, that are potentially only designed for PCI-E 6-Pin connections. I.E amperage limitations.

Yes, I said it would be more aptly called "dangers of buying a bad PSU". Reason: Using a PCI-E 6-Pin to PCI-E 8-Pin adapter on my PCI-E 6+2-Pin is perfectly fine, so where is the danger in that?
If you had a POS PSU, then it would be dangerous. Hence: "Dangers of buying a bad PSU".
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You know, I am still trying to figure out what the risks are?

point,there are no serious risks
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Originally Posted by obsidian86;12755087 
point,there are no risks

So long as you have a decent PSU
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Thread title states "Potential risks of using PCI-E adapters", and is not about "buying a bad PSU".

This thread is NOT about whether or not a PCI-E 6-Pin can deliver 150W, the thread is about using PCI-E 6-Pin to 8-Pin adapters on 12v rails, that are potentially only designed for PCI-E 6-Pin connections. I.E amperage limitations.

Alright, let us do some calculations;

Given: the size of the conductors is 18AWG. The ampacity of 18AWG copper is generally accepted as 10 Amperes. Three 18AWG copper conductors in parallel equals an ampacity of the wiring harness as 30 Amperes.

Given: the ampacity rating of the contacts at 9 Amperes, the harness is actually limited to 3 x 9 = 27 Amperes.

The two extra grounds, each connected in series to one of the the three grounds that are connected to the power supply, have no effect what-so-ever on the ampacity of the circuit.

I am in no way arguing the fact the circuit ampacity may not be determined by the power supply, only that electrically, the 6-pin harness and the 6+2 pin harness are capable of carrying the same amount of current.
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Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thealex132;12755042 
NVM thought you were OP for a sec redface.gif



Yes, I said it would be more aptly called "dangers of buying a bad PSU". Reason: Using a PCI-E 6-Pin to PCI-E 8-Pin adapter on my PCI-E 6+2-Pin is perfectly fine, so where is the danger in that?
If you had a POS PSU, then it would be dangerous. Hence: "Dangers of buying a bad PSU".
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PCI-E 6-Pin to 8-Pin adapters can be limited regardless of PSU manufacturer, which is the problem with my silverstone 600W strider.
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Originally Posted by Arctucas;12755148 
Alright, let do some calculations;

Given: the size of the conductors is 18AWG. The ampacity of 18AWG copper is generally accepted as 10 Amperes. Three 18AWG copper conductors in parallel equals an ampacity of the wiring harness as 30 Amperes.

Given: the ampacity rating of the contacts at 9 Amperes, the harness is actually limited to 3 x 9 = 27 Amperes.

The two extra grounds, each connected in series to one of the the three grounds that are connected to the power supply, have no effect what-so-ever on the ampacity of the circuit.

I am in no way arguing the fact the circuit ampacity is not determined by the power supply, only that electrically, the 6-pin harness and the 6+2 pin harness are capable of carrying the same amount of current.

Uh ok? We all agree with you, that's exactly what I'm saying.
What I am saying is any decent PSU should be able to deliver 150w on the 6-pin, 8-pin is more there to 'make sure' by graphics card manufac. that it will supply the 150w on the 8pin.
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PCI-E 6-Pin to 8-Pin adapters can be limited regardless of PSU manufacturer, which is the problem with my silverstone 600W strider.


huh?
So the problem is your PSU not the adapter? That's what I was saying?
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Uh ok? We all agree with you, that's exactly what I'm saying.
What I am saying is any decent PSU should be able to deliver 150w on the 6-pin, 8-pin is more there to 'make sure' by graphics card manufac. that it will supply the 150w on the 8pin.

I was not debating your statements.
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I was not debating your statements.

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