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If my internet is capped, so much for having fun. So much for Steam, so much for hosting servers, so much for pretty much everything. And torrents aren't just for illegal content, it's much easier to download massive files, unlike traditional browsers. I get lost links on Firefox when pausing and restarting, but torrents go much faster.
My entire music collection currently comes from http://www.ocremix.org/ a site dedicated to making remixes of classic video game music. All their stuff is packaged into torrents as hosting and downloading each song individually would be a pain for them, and cost far more than they could afford. I get much faster download speeds using the torrent than individual files anyways. I wouldn't like what this would do to those type of site, distributors of amateur and professional fan-creations, free type stuff.

This is the proverbial swatting of a fly with a bazooka.
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It's true though. Can't deny that. If you don't download mass amounts of movies, games, and music, where exactly does your bandwidth go?
netflix, steam, online gaming, the list is endless.
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I don't mind complete torrent blockage, but I do mind caps of bandwidth. Netflix and steam can both be huge bandwidth hogs, and I don't want my unlimited Netflix to suddenly turn limited.

Find a better way to stop piracy, mkay?
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It's true though. Can't deny that. If you don't download mass amounts of movies, games, and music, where exactly does your bandwidth go?
HD netflix streaming.

The truth is though, I probably watch an hour of HD video through the internet a day, as well as do my fair share of... downloading linux ISOs on utorrent, and I don't pass 250gigs per month. I feel that an ISP has the right to cap data use just like they do connection speed. Packet shaping and tiered traffic are the real concerns. Data caps are just another way to come up with pricing structures, subscriptions, and bundles, that's just the marketing department doing their job unfortunately.
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I do mind caps of bandwidth. Netflix and steam can both be huge bandwidth hogs, and I don't want my unlimited Netflix to suddenly turn limited.

Find a better way to stop piracy, mkay?
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HD netflix streaming.

The truth is though, I probably watch an hour of HD video through the internet a day, as well as do my fair share of... downloading linux ISOs on utorrent, and I don't pass 250gigs per month. I feel that an ISP has the right to cap data use just like they do connection speed. Packet shaping and tiered traffic are the real concerns. Data caps are just another way to come up with pricing structures, subscriptions, and bundles, that's just the marketing department doing their job unfortunately.
For people who have a whole household using one high speed connection this can and will cause issues.

I'm not sure how much bandwidth watching 5-6 HD TV show episodes takes up, but I'm sure it adds up quickly. Not to mention Steam, or online distribution in general. Yea it will discourage some piracy, but at the same time it will discourage a lot of users from using that service.

Also, it is wrong for an ISP to raise prices and put caps on their internet services. Especially when they've been offering uncapped modestly priced internet for years, then got greedy and looked for excuses to raise prices and put caps on.
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For people who have a whole household using one high speed connection this can and will cause issues.

I'm not sure how much bandwidth watching 5-6 HD TV show episodes takes up, but I'm sure it adds up quickly. Not to mention Steam, or online distribution in general. Yea it will discourage some piracy, but at the same time it will discourage a lot of users from using that service.

Also, it is wrong for an ISP to raise prices and put caps on their internet services. Especially when they've been offering uncapped modestly priced internet for years, then got greedy and looked for excuses to raise prices and put caps on.
My wife and I put together probably watch 4-5 HD episodes of TV a day. Since all of our favorite shows are online, we rarely touch the live TV anymore, and almost always just navigate to watch the latest episode online.

I'll often have an episode of something playing on half the screen while I play minecraft on the other half, or browse the internet, etc.
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This is very true, as much as I hate all of the bullsh-- that has been going on these days, almost NO ONE, will go over a 150gb cap (repeat almost, so no failed flamers) without pirating, unless you have Direct 2 Drive or something of that sort (very few), and you must be rich to be buying all those games to use that space up, then.... you would have unlimited bandwidth, living on a private island with super models serving you. All in all... which person has a rant against this article now after reading this?

/rant against all ranters who don't think about how these things affect them.
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so people who use lots of data pirate right?



what about Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, and so on? what a ridiculous assertion. just because you use lots of data it doesn't make you a pirate.

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This is very true, as much as I hate all of the bullsh-- that has been going on these days, almost NO ONE, will go over a 150gb cap (repeat almost, so no failed flamers) without pirating, unless you have Direct 2 Drive or something of that sort (very few), and you must be rich to be buying all those games to use that space up, then.... you would have unlimited bandwidth, living on a private island with super models serving you. All in all... which person has a rant against this article now after reading this?

/rant against all ranters who don't think about how these things affect them.
multi person household with XBox Live, PSN, Hulu, and wifi enabled phones?

try again. the flaw in your argument is you're assuming everyone ascribes to the same usage model as you.
Edited by -iceblade^ - 3/15/11 at 4:57pm
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It's true though. Can't deny that. If you don't download mass amounts of movies, games, and music, where exactly does your bandwidth go?
I've watched all of Stargate SG-1, seasons 1-4 this month. Legally, on Netflix. That probably tops 100GB easily. Plus all the other stuff I've watched on Netflix.

If our internet were capped at 100, or 50, or 20GB then we'd cancel out Netflix subscription. Netflix would go out of business from lost subscribers within the year.


Plus games through Steam, Youtube videos, and all the freeware and shareware I use.
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