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post #11 of 22
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^^ saw your post, just didnt have the experience to proceed as i ****ed it up last time.
THANKS! for the help thus far. UPDATES:

-I have disabled C1E, Virtualization (Vanderpool tech.), and Speedstep
--->core multiplier raised to 7 as a result
-I have manually set my memory timings to 6-6-6-18-24 as recommended

Here is what the option for increasing my FSB looks like. It is not "increased by 2-5 Mhz" at a time as most people mention, but rather wants a "target" speed set. I realize CPU-Z says my bus speed is 266.7 Mhz but inputting any number less than 1056 has no effect (as shown in images below).







As this is my first OC, I am hesitant to proceed as any guide i've looked at thus far always accounts for the Multiplier (mine is 7) and I am worried about increasing my FSB again without taking that into account. I know that the basic steps are to increase fsb, test for instability (what does this look like when testing w/ prime 95???), increase voltage until stable.

Can anyone give me some basic tips on doing this in very, very obvious, rookie terminology?
Edited by CookieMaker - 3/16/11 at 5:21pm
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Wooooah!!! How did you get that P5NSLI to run a C2D or am I missing something?? Have the same Motherboard in another case that I tried to get a E6400 to run in, but after no go and a ton of searching around the net, save one or two people saying otherwise, Came to the conclusion that it would only run PD's and was even Finicky with some of those as well. Hmm actually Im thinkin might have to go an double look, think it might be the P5ND2 from Asus an not the P5N...both same chipset though...get my Q6700 Friday so might have to retry but with the E6300 and different/newer Bios...lol sorry for the thread jack Doh!! Cheers!!
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Wooooah!!! How did you get that P5NSLI to run a C2D or am I missing something?? Have the same Motherboard in another case that I tried to get a E6400 to run in, but after no go and a ton of searching around the net, save one or two people saying otherwise, Came to the conclusion that it would only run PD's and was even Finicky with some of those as well. Hmm actually Im thinkin might have to go an double look, think it might be the P5ND2 from Asus an not the P5N...both same chipset though...get my Q6700 Friday so might have to retry but with the E6300 and different/newer Bios...lol sorry for the thread jack Doh!! Cheers!!
I wish i knew how big a deal this was, but I can only infer from your excitement. The setup was a custom put together for me in like 2006 and I had no idea what went into it at the time. Only now becoming interested in OC'ing.
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Wooooah!!! How did you get that P5NSLI to run a C2D or am I missing something?? Have the same Motherboard in another case that I tried to get a E6400 to run in, but after no go and a ton of searching around the net, save one or two people saying otherwise, Came to the conclusion that it would only run PD's and was even Finicky with some of those as well. Hmm actually Im thinkin might have to go an double look, think it might be the P5ND2 from Asus an not the P5N...both same chipset though...get my Q6700 Friday so might have to retry but with the E6300 and different/newer Bios...lol sorry for the thread jack Doh!! Cheers!!
What bios were you using? Alot of updates to bios are to support more cpus

though seems the p5n was released after the e6400
post #15 of 22
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Updated BIOS.

I just tried increasing the FSB speed up to 1100 (quad-pumped 275Mhz, equivalent of 1.925Ghz) but upon saving and restarting i got nothing but black screen again (no loading or option to enter BIOS) and had to reset the BIOS using the mobo battery. Gonna try only an increase to 268.75Hz.

Additional Comment:

IT RUNS! (shocked)
testing now with prime95 for 10 minutes.

Voltage settings are still on auto. According to CPU-Z core voltage is 1.344V.
running at 1.86Ghz (268.8Mhz x 7) 5 minutes into a prime-test
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post #16 of 22
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Test worked for 10. No issues at all with temp (52C, nowhere near the max of 61)

set the RAM lower?? i was under the impression that the ram i have can max out at 400Mhz. Could the issue be voltage to either ram or cpu? what would you suggest for those?

Additional Comment:

WEIRD just went into my BIOS and notice my DDR speed is actually down to 400 (403.1Mhz). I don't know why it magically changed itself...

gonna keep bumping up the fsb
EDIT UPDATE:
UGH just bumped my FSB up to 1080(=270Mhz = 1.89Ghz) and it didnt like that at all. Just got a series of LONG beeps when trying to boot up instead of the nice crisp single beep. Gonna reset the BIOS and try again.... suggestions greatly appreciated
edit: found out from http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm that the beeps usually mean a RAM problem, but i dont know how to account for it when increasing the FSB
UPDATE
i'm trying the same test again (increase to 270MHz) with only 2 modules ports in parallel rather than all 4 slots filled.
edit: TEST successful, though computer seems to run slower? Any thoughts anyone?
Edited by CookieMaker - 3/16/11 at 9:22pm
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post #17 of 22
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Limited on voltage on the RAM = can't safely increase RAM voltage?

The summary of the problems (as I see it) is that if I clock up my FSB then my RAM "cant keep up"
-> i dont know if this means i need to clock it down or up.
Also, it has been suggested that my motherboard is struggling with 4cards of 2gb of RAM. One proposed solution was to remove 2 of the cards and run the other 2 in parallel. Another solution (i think??) was to increase the voltage to the RAM.

I'm really not sure what the best course of action is here. Thus far the best I've gotten my cpu up to is 268.75Mhz (a 1% increase from 266.1). Cooling hasn't remotely been a problem as even after testing the new setting the max temp reached was 52*C.
I am about to install Windows 7- 64bit so i can take advantage of having more RAM available.

Any ideas for the best actions to take from here?
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You should run the memory unlinked, so the speed of the memory does not change when overclocking. The E6300 should easily handle an FSB of 1600 (QDR), at a low voltage. When I ran my E6300 at 1600 FSB (2.8Ghz), it did it with just 1.2v CPU voltage. I saw you are currently using 1.34v (?), and lowering the voltage should also lower the temperature.

Ram voltage highly depends on which exact set of ram you have. There should be a sticker on the modules claiming the maximum supported voltage.

Edit: that board might give problems when using all 4 slots for the memory.
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^^ I tried only using 2 slots for memory (total 4GB). I have been running the memory unlinked, or so i thought because as shown in my earlier screenies i can change the FSB speed w/o changing the DDR speed. It still refuses to boot up above a relatively low fq (270Mhz, 1.89Ghz). Any comments on why that might be?
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^^ I tried only using 2 slots for memory (total 4GB). I have been running the memory unlinked, or so i thought because as shown in my earlier screenies i can change the FSB speed w/o changing the DDR speed. It still refuses to boot up above a relatively low fq (270Mhz, 1.89Ghz). Any comments on why that might be?
Some other setting must be wrong...

Unfortunatly I have no experience with that board. I only know the E6300 is very easy to overclock up to 1600 FSB.

Try setting it to 1333 FSB as that is the stock FSB of some other CPU's. That should put you at 2.33Ghz and would not require any change in voltage.
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