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I've always wanted to switch to linux, but always had an excuse for myself whenever I was about to. Now, I've finally done it. What makes it easiest is that in order to fold -bigAdv on my X6, I have to run the folding client in Ubuntu anyway. So I just found a spare HD and installed it.
I have a few questions, though.
My first is steam. I got steam to install just fine through winetricks, but how do I get games to run? I specifically want to run portal. Also, I saw that the Crysis 2 demo runs just fine, but I can't get it to run.
http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.ph...ea1600375d1391

But, games are not the most important thing to me. I really do love the efficiency and functionality that Linux offers.
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For Portal

mushroomboy was able to get crysis 2 to partially run in wine, after a decent amount of tweaking...i think he followed the crysis 1 guides from wineHQ.

you just have search around, learn how to do wine prefixes, the appdb is very helpful...not all games will work in wine...and there is a fair amount that will with little or no troubles.
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For Portal

mushroomboy was able to get crysis 2 to partially run in wine, after a decent amount of tweaking...i think he followed the crysis 1 guides from wineHQ.

you just have search around, learn how to do wine prefixes, the appdb is very helpful...not all games will work in wine...and there is a fair amount that will with little or no troubles.
I had to add and remove things from the Crysis guide but the new demo patch told me.... Well lets just say it's not playing nice. =( I even tried the steam version!!! BAH

As for Portal? Portal should work fine with no tweaks, you might need to force DX8/DX9 in the launch options (pick one). I think it's just -directx 8/-directx 9.1, I'm not sure on that it's something similar. Other than that you might want to set DirectDrawRenderer in regedit to opengl:

http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys

All source games work, if you have major problems look it up on the appdb and follow one of the guides they have. You can also get good information from the counterstrike source page on the appdb. It runs pretty nice once you get it going. =)

[edit] Its -directx 91, at least there is no 9.1 it's either 90/91 for the original 9 and 9c (9.1)
Edited by mushroomboy - 3/16/11 at 4:01pm
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I switched for a short time, wireless lan drivers proved to be an issue and many of the most popular games have no driver support, which requires a dual operating system setup. I like to leave my pc running 24/7 and rebooting to run games or programs with driver issues was just a pain in the ass to switch back and fourth, also not being able to connect wireless required stringing cat5 thru the house....not very pretty!
Don't get me wrong Linux runs much faster and very stable without all the Bloatware of windows, sure getting use to using the command line takes a little while but I loved it and would be all over it, if I did not have wireless driver issues along with drivers for most games.
If linux had better driver support I would abandon windows and never look back.
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I switched for a short time, wireless lan drivers proved to be an issue and many of the most popular games have no driver support, which requires a dual operating system setup. I like to leave my pc running 24/7 and rebooting to run games or programs with driver issues was just a pain in the ass to switch back and fourth, also not being able to connect wireless required stringing cat5 thru the house....not very pretty!
Don't get me wrong Linux runs much faster and very stable without all the Bloatware of windows, sure getting use to using the command line takes a little while but I loved it and would be all over it, if I did not have wireless driver issues along with drivers for most games.
If linux had better driver support I would abandon windows and never look back.
First off, games don't have driver support, they don't even have drivers. You are talking about how there aren't many games written natively for Linux as well as Wine having poor compatibility. That's not driver support, never was, never will be.

Ndiswrapper was created so you can use WinXP drivers in linux, both 32/64bit drivers. They finished Ndiswrapper as it is nearly perfect now, it supports just about every wireless driver for XP. If you can't find wifi drivers, which is rare as even Broadcom has native drivers, ndiswrapper covers the rest. Mainly now there are no wifi problems in linux, it is just a matter of getting things configured and getting the right software.

In short, drivers aren't an issue now it is just figuring out which chipset you have and how to get it working.
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ive NEVER had driver problems in linux even with wireless and ati

i feel lucky lol
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There used to be huge problems, till wifi companies listened and gave us some drivers. Almost all broadcom chipsets weren't working at one time, which was bad.
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Reserving this spot.
I know I have a link to an experimental fork of wine that includes a lot of patches and fixes specifically aimed at getting games running properly... The official repository has a lot of compatibility issues right now with games, especially with winewow64 and wine64 due to them working on implementing a more native .net instead of increasing compatibility with the existing .net installers (instead of parsing and emulating commands, supporting them natively will give a huge performance increase) this has lead to some issues with a lot of regular msXXXXX.dll files loading (mscoree.dll, msvcr80.dll, etc)
The unofficial fork uses pretty much bleeding edge wine all the time (he patches the latest source and uploads it to his repository)
LINK:
http://repo.or.cz/r/wine/hacks.git
    
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Thanks guys. And that's really cool Xaero, I'll look into that more.
+rep for all you guys.
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If you honestly care about games (even one) that aren't WoW or a Source Engine game: just dual boot Windows. Seriously. Sure you can get lots of different games working, but 95% of the time it only works because you're cutting out of features (forcing dx8, etc...). Most will work, but won't be stable.

I'm sure mushroomboy can get the Crysis 2 demo to run, but that's basically for proof of concept so we all can say that it does run. It sure as hell isn't the best way to experience the game and I'm sure that when the full game comes out with all the DX11 features, you'll surely miss out on a lot.

Wine is getting better, but until there are open standards or games are developed to be completely cross-platform, you're forcing yourself to have a subpar experience and lots of games (especially online ones) can become frustrating and put a stint in your entertainment value.
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