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Ok I am going to do I guess what you would call and AMD Vision Black build and I could use some suggestions on a couple of components. Here is a list so far of the parts that I am going to buy.

Corsair Graphite Series 600T Case
Corsair Professional Series AX1200 1200W Power Supply
Asus Crosshair IV Formula or Extreme Motherboard(Not sure which yet)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition CPU
Corsair Hydro H70 CPU Cooler
Western Digital VelociRaptor 600gb 10,000rpm HDD
2 HIS 6870 Turbo or 6970 Turbo Cards(Not sure which to go with)
Lite-On 12X Internal Blu-Ray Reader/Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Now I know I did not list the memory but that is because I am really confused on what to get. I want to get 8gb-16gb of PC316000 2000mhz memory. I know I will have to overclock the CPU and the memory to reach 2000mhz but I don't know which mobo and which memory would be better for that purpose. So any suggestions on that would be greatly appreciated.

I also did not list a monitor as I know what I want but don't know which are the better quality monitors. I am looking for a monitor 24 inches and up with a max res of 1920X1080 with a aspect ratio of 16:9. And if you could suggest a great monitor with actual buttons that you actually push that would be even better. Thank you so much for your help it is great appreciated.
    
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About the Velociraptor......
In my opinion, you could get x3 1 TB 7,200 RPM regular hard drives for just a little bit more money ($30 more) and put them into RAID array. This should give you around the same speed as one Velocirapter with much more reliablity. Also, it will give you x2 Tb of storage instead of 600 GB. Some people might disagree with this, but it's just a idea.

About the power supply....
1.2 KW power supply? Why? Use this http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp Tell me what it comes up with. 800-ish watts sounds more reasonable.

About memory...
Getting super ultra fast speed memory is over-rated. You speed $100 extra to get 1 more fps in your game. Personally, go with 6-8 Gb of DDR3 1600 Mhz. 16 Gb of RAM is just stupid. You will never use that much unless you are running like 5 virtual machines simulataneously. I can run the latest video games on the highest settings with 4 Gb (although i am cutting it close sometimes).
Edited by crimsontears809739 - 3/16/11 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by BuildingFirst37;12753409 
Ok I am going to do I guess what you would call and AMD Vision Black build and I could use some suggestions on a couple of components. Here is a list so far of the parts that I am going to buy.

Corsair Graphite Series 600T Case
Corsair Professional Series AX1200 1200W Power Supply
Asus Crosshair IV Formula or Extreme Motherboard(Not sure which yet)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition CPU
Corsair Hydro H70 CPU Cooler
Western Digital VelociRaptor 600gb 10,000rpm HDD
2 HIS 6870 Turbo or 6970 Turbo Cards(Not sure which to go with)
Lite-On 12X Internal Blu-Ray Reader/Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Now I know I did not list the memory but that is because I am really confused on what to get. I want to get 8gb-16gb of PC316000 2000mhz memory. I know I will have to overclock the CPU and the memory to reach 2000mhz but I don't know which mobo and which memory would be better for that purpose. So any suggestions on that would be greatly appreciated.

I also did not list a monitor as I know what I want but don't know which are the better quality monitors. I am looking for a monitor 24 inches and up with a max res of 1920X1080 with a aspect ratio of 16:9. And if you could suggest a great monitor with actual buttons that you actually push that would be even better. Thank you so much for your help it is great appreciated.

Get Asus crosshairIV extreme,
I would try to stay away from HIS,get the gpu of a better brand like msi/asus/sapphire.
For a hd6970 or even 2x hd6870 a corsair ax1200 is overkill,but if u plan another card(hd6970) in future then get it.
Edited by Aniket - 3/16/11 at 9:29am
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post #4 of 18
Wow, Power Supply overkill much? The AMD Radeon HD6990 Just came out and your power supply can handle it, it is just basically two 6970's crammed into one single graphics card.
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I'd go with a single 6970 for now. It won't be quite as fast as 2x 6870. But it will be cheaper and easier to configure, and you won't have to worry about games that do not support crossfire. Then you can always add a second 6970 later (prices drop over time) and get the full performance benefit.
That way would be better if you find that 2x 6870 isn't fast enough for you, because you'll only need to buy 1 new card instead of 2.
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Also, I would highly recommend investing in an SSD instead of the velociraper.
You can get a 128GB SSD + a 1TB drive for around the same price. It'll be faster, and you'll have more space in total.
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Originally Posted by wedge;12754116 
Also, I would highly recommend investing in an SSD instead of the velociraper.
You can get a 128GB SSD + a 1TB drive for around the same price. It'll be faster, and you'll have more space in total.

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Your better off with the higher end power supply better to buy one than 2. If you decide down the line you want to upgrade say to 3 way crossfire then your set, Instead of buying a lower end power supply now, then having to buy a better one cause you want to upgrade later.And i personally would rather have my power supply barely using its max then using its max and getting hot.
Edited by solar0987 - 3/16/11 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by BuildingFirst37;12753409 
Ok I am going to do I guess what you would call and AMD Vision Black build and I could use some suggestions on a couple of components. Here is a list so far of the parts that I am going to buy.

Corsair Graphite Series 600T Case
Corsair Professional Series AX1200 1200W Power Supply
Asus Crosshair IV Formula or Extreme Motherboard(Not sure which yet)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition CPU
Corsair Hydro H70 CPU Cooler
Western Digital VelociRaptor 600gb 10,000rpm HDD
2 HIS 6870 Turbo or 6970 Turbo Cards(Not sure which to go with)
Lite-On 12X Internal Blu-Ray Reader/Writer
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Now I know I did not list the memory but that is because I am really confused on what to get. I want to get 8gb-16gb of PC316000 2000mhz memory. I know I will have to overclock the CPU and the memory to reach 2000mhz but I don't know which mobo and which memory would be better for that purpose. So any suggestions on that would be greatly appreciated.

I also did not list a monitor as I know what I want but don't know which are the better quality monitors. I am looking for a monitor 24 inches and up with a max res of 1920X1080 with a aspect ratio of 16:9. And if you could suggest a great monitor with actual buttons that you actually push that would be even better. Thank you so much for your help it is great appreciated.

Some things before I list the parts:

Since it looks like money isn't too much of a barrier, you're MUCH better off going with Intel for a build like this. The Core i7 2600K is faster in single-threaded and multi-threaded apps than the Phenom II X6 1100T. That means it's faster in anything from games, to encoding, to editing, and rendering. It also over-clocks better, too, and is more power efficient. You are pretty much guaranteed an over-clock of 4.6GHz on the 2600K and one of 4GHz on the 1100T and that's without counting the 2600K has higher instructions-per-clock. Also, as someone else mentioned, using two high-performance 7200RPM mechanical drives in RAID0 will yield much higher performance than what a VelociRaptor can deliver. Using an SSD and HDD combo is even better since you can store the OS and time-sensitive applications on the SSD and media on the HDD. You're better off going that route. As for the GPUs, if you use those in CrossFire, your X6 1100T may slightly bottleneck them as it cannot keep the GPUs fed with data well enough in some games. In terms of memory, there's no difference in real-world performance between CAS 9 1600MHz RAM and CAS 9 2000MHz. The Power Supply you chose is way overkill for that setup, as that CPU over-clocked as well as the GPUs in CrossFire will not demand more than 700 watts.

With that out of the way, I think this is a much better build:


Corsair Graphite 600T: $145

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB: $65

Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB: $130

Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB: $277

Corsair 850TX 850W PSU: $140

Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz RAM: $100

MSI P67A-GD65 Rev. B3 Motherboard: $180

Intel Core i7 2600K: $329

Corsair Hydro H70 Cooler: $105

LG 10X Blu-Ray/DVD+ RW LightScribe Writer: $90

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit: $140

Subtotal: $1705
Total: $1736

With this you'll be able to do anything, really. It'll have very high computational performance and a GPU that can play anything at the res. you posted in max. settings with AA. If you want to add one or two monitors to the setup, then you should get another 6950 2GB. You'll have good storage capacity and an extremely fast SSD.
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post #10 of 18
Unless you really need six cores I would think about a SB setup; you're buying a premium AM3 mobo anyway so price/performance the (as much as it pains me to say it) would be the better build. Ideally bulldozer will be out in the summer but with no upgrade path to it I'm not convinced (even with the advertised boards). AMD to me is either about budget builds or specifically needing teh six cores for encoding. The Phenoms are now 2 generations behind SB.

Check Anandtech cpu comparison based on what you want it for.

1200w is a little too much imo.

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