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Less quantity of threats does not equate to increased security. That's like saying living in a nice neghborhood lowers the risk of dying to a gunshot wound. Won't make any difference where you live when someone decides to shoot you.
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Because in general, there's far, far more malware written for Windows than OSX. Yes, that's a result of market share yada yada. But that doesn't change the fact that OSX has less of it.
Marketshare is only part of it.

Look at Apache. It is run on most of the servers on the internet...exploits on Apache are quite few. Marketshare is less important than quality of code.
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Less quantity of threats does not equate to increased security. That's like saying living in a nice neghborhood lowers the risk of dying to a gunshot wound. Won't make any difference where you live when someone decides to shoot you.
I disagree completely. I live in a safe neighborhood and I would say my odds of getting shot are far less than living in downtown DC. It's all about likelihood. Where are the most threats?
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post #14 of 63
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Because in general, there's far, far more malware written for Windows than OSX. Yes, that's a result of market share yada yada. But that doesn't change the fact that OSX has less of it.
Right but that doesn't equate to how secure it is. That just equates to market-share.
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Right but that doesn't equate to how secure it is. That just equates to market-share.
I see what you guys are saying - just because there's less doesnt mean it's more secure....there's just less malware. My point is there's less likelihood of encountering OSX specific malware, thereby making it "more secure". If that makes sense...
 
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post #16 of 63
This should be a mojor problem because if apple is making OS's that can get hacked in "5 seconds" .. then what about all those poor iphone users ...
    
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yeah, those poor iphone, ipod touch, ipad users. If its that easy to break into OS X (address book, mails, passwords, files), and this is the state of art at apple without much malware written for this platform, I guess apple must notice All eye candy and no wit makes it unworthy,losing every users' privacy.

On a brighter note I'm hoping they would do better with Lion, as its being extensively tested for its sandboxing features (lessons learnt from chrome i guess).
Edited by kartik3vv - 3/16/11 at 8:09pm
    
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I see what you guys are saying - just because there's less doesnt mean it's more secure....there's just less malware. My point is there's less likelihood of encountering OSX specific malware, thereby making it "more secure". If that makes sense...
You're claiming "more secure" through probability and he was arguing "more secure" through design. Your claim isn't so much security as it is chance. Apple will claim they are the same thing but they are not. Apple is simply hoping that you are too dumb to tell the difference. When OSX encounters it's specific malware its more devastating than if windows did. Sure both get breached but the results here speak of how if you were dumb and went somewhere shady; you'd be slightly worse off with OSX than windows.
     
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post #19 of 63
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yeah, those poor iphone, ipad touch, ipad users. If its that easy to break into OS X (address book, mails, passwords, files), and this is the state of art at apple without much malware written for this platform, I guess apple must notice All eye candy and no wit makes it unworthy of losing privacy.

On a brighter note I'm hoping they would do better with Lion, as its being extensively tested for its sandboxing features (lessons learnt from chrome i guess).
Sandboxing= Godmode. I only hope that Windows learns that.
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This is five seconds... after weeks or months of research finding and coding this hack.
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