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Says the studio with a history of low quality graphics.
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Originally Posted by PhilWrir View Post
Says the studio with a history of low quality graphics.
Morrowind looked really good back in the day, and Oblivion too, they were both games which were very difficult to run with everything maxed at the time of their release, it's only Fallout 3 which didn't look as good because by then the engine was a bit dated.
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explain minecraft bethesda...

i think design matters, graphics on their own... not so much.

eye candy is nice but gameplay > graphics anytime.
/thread.
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Good examples of graphics vs gameplay

DS vs PSP - DS sold way more
PS2 vs Gamecube and Xbox - PS2 won
Wii vs PS3 and Xbox 360 - Wii sold more

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I would say that they matter up to a certain point. If you have a game with more graphics then story, then it wont be fun to play... You need a combination of both to make a great game. Although a great game is nothing if the graphics don't work with it (although they don't have to be the greatest graphics.
     
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I really don't care about graphics too much.
Even if the game uses N64-like 3D, I'd still like it if it had good gameplay and music. (And good camera angles)

I just recently obtained Lufia II, and I'm loving it so far.
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Well look at me still playing CS1.6 solely for the gameplay and game dynamics. OFC there are prettier shooter, more realistic shooters, shooters with more guns and perks, and shooters which have 3 types of scopes. But I chose CS because its clean, and isnt corrupted by graphics in your face. When I play a game I don't go around looking at walls and noticing how pretty they are, instead I focus on gameplay, positioning, strategy, teamwork, angles, nades, and spams. And IMO CS is superior in all aspects previously mentioned.
In the modern FPS shooters you spray and get headshots, you camp and get headshots, you airstrike and get kills, basically you be a n00b and get rewarded for it. However CS is much less forgiving. I can emphasize this enough but CS is not about camping like modern FPS are, its about angles and the modern games dont get that. It takes skill to get kills not mashing on buttons.
Im kinda tired and doubt some will read this. Ill continue my rant some other day.
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post #68 of 154
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Originally Posted by paulerxx View Post
Good examples of graphics vs gameplay

DS vs PSP - DS sold way more
PS2 vs Gamecube and Xbox - PS2 won
Wii vs PS3 and Xbox 360 - Wii sold more

Excellent Disseration, proof in the pudding! +Rep
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post #69 of 154
What's it with the guys coming here saying that gameplay is more important that graphics? I think we all know that, end even the bethseda guy does. What he is saying that graphics do matter, even if it's a small amount. It's a fact that your gameplay experience and most importantly, the first impressions of the game will be affected by graphics. Don't try to deny it, it's true.
 
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Originally Posted by _GTech View Post
The truth of the matter is, Console Graphics are often better than PC Graphics, believe it or not... Part of that is due to how console games can be directly programmed for hardware, where PC Games access video cards through the use of the API layer or DirectX to access video card capabilities, which often results in lesser details than consoles and slower performance!

In case you didn't know it, graphics doesn't matter, not really...

How fun a game is, game length, and Replay value matter far more than graphics ever can! (Starcraft / Duck Hunt / Neverwinter Nights anyone?)

So stuff that in your pipe and smoke it Bethsheda!
I don't know where you came up with this idea but I have not ONCE seen a console game that didn't look better on PC. Care to name some examples?
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Originally Posted by PhilWrir View Post
Says the studio with a history of low quality graphics.
Both Morrowind and Oblivion were hailed as having some of the best graphics of their day when released.
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