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I really don't see anyone with any sense trying to bring a new generation console to the market at the moment, everyone is short on money and there just won't be the base of people willing to buy new gear until the economy turns around properly and people feel they have cash to spend.
It will not. Why? because of this: watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w (kinda off topic though)
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"It's the same conversation as it was for PlayStation 1, 2 and 3. With the laziness nowadays, to develop and launch a new platform, you have to have a long lifecycle.
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1 1/2 year and the "climate" will be perfect to announce a new console, We have to remember that every generation of console needs something to make it different. They need to be able to put their money where their mouth is.

If a new console comes out that has slightly shinier graphics and faster load-times, who would buy it?

It needs to be a generation ahead of whats out already. And we just aren't quite there yet. I have a feeling that what we need exists, but at this point it's either too expensive or too power-hungry to be used
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1 1/2 year and the "climate" will be perfect to announce a new console, We have to remember that every generation of console needs something to make it different. They need to be able to put their money where their mouth is.

If a new console comes out that has slightly shinier graphics and faster load-times, who would buy it?

It needs to be a generation ahead of whats out already. And we just aren't quite there yet. I have a feeling that what we need exists, but at this point it's either too expensive or too power-hungry to be used
This, I couldn't agree more.


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Laziness? I'm so tired of people labeling things like this as laziness. You obviously have no idea what it takes to create a console, or any tech for that matter. It takes resources, a large investment of resources. Making the decision when it is a good time to spend time and money isn't from laziness, it is a practical business practice. What you are wanting isn't the next generation console, it is a revamped re-release. You are wanting them to create a PS3.1 with nothing more but new graphics and memory. So now, they can charge $600 for current generation consoles while doing nothing but raising the visual restrictions. Now what, developers will try maxing that out? Ok cool, not only will you then complain about how lazy they are for not making another release a year later, but all the PS3.0 owners will be pissed because their hardware can't run the new games that use more resources. It is all about timing, it has nothing to do with anyone being "lazy".
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This makes me so happy. With all the new game engines debuted at GDC this year, developers are going to focus more on PC and give PS3/Xbox dumbed down ports.
    
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This makes me so happy. With all the new game engines debuted at GDC this year, developers are going to focus more on PC and give PS3/Xbox dumbed down ports.
It should always be this way. Obsolete hardware (consoles) should not be the main focus for game developers on multi-system games. Cutting-edge hardware should. *DERP*
    
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post #27 of 49
Old news is old. And useless. At least I make posts off of it. : )

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Arguably. For many products, I'd agree with you. But for consoles, even if they are supported, they are basically obsolete the moment their successors hit shelves if you ask me. Sure you might get a decent game or two for the old ones, but there's going to be little desire for developers to work much on them (or at least to put their big titles on them). The money is going to be in the new console. Because of that, the older console's life is basically over, to me.
Close to dead, but not dead. The PS2 is selling very well for what amounts to an 11 year old computer. That's pre-winXP, son! lol.
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They are making plenty of money from consumers, why fix what's not broken?
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post #29 of 49
They're too busy filing subpoena's to develop a new system anyway.
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I don't believe for a second we won't see ps4 until 2016. But! Sony would be kicking themselves by saying that the PS4 was close, then people would stop buying PS3's and wait for the next generation. And considering the money spent on this gen, it's in MS's and Sony's best interests to keep this generation going as long as possible.

/rant

And to those who think that the hardware isn't there for a new gen, you are fooled by good coding that has allowed console visuals come as far as they have.

x1900/7900 (example) are about 1/4th the power of my 4870, and my 4870 is about half the speed of a GTX470, which in turn is about 60% the speed of the 580/6970.

So console GPU's are roughly 1/11th the power of current hardware, and the resolution they must support? 1080p.....childs play for today's hardware.

Cpu's haven't seen the same explosive improvement but even my q6700 can feed any single GPU solution and it came out in 2007.

I know i'm listing components that are too powerhungry for consoles that should fit into a 200-250w envelope but 2 years from now the required level of performance will be there.

/rant
    
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