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Good. Dig your own grave Sony. Let's see how popular your PS4 is now that you've lied to, stolen from, and cheated your customers.

It's a good thing Sony has no more worthwhile exclusives. Hell, even the MGS franchise is on the Xbox now.
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What you all need to realize is, the truth of the whole matter...

Geo Hot and a few others will be made example of, this is how they will move to try strike fear in would-be perceived as bad guys / hackers of the future, remembering the case of a select few it may dissuade further explorations into illicit activities which are illegal.

The truth is, just like piracy, it's virtually impossible to stop everyone from breaking the law, and not only is it impossible to stop, it's impossible to prosecute all the pirates & bad guys too, there are simply too many, therefore with those facts you can see why the following statement has a lot of truth to it...

Therefore, rather than waste millions of dollars & tying up their legal department & the court systems chasing the bad guys, they will from time to time select out a few to Martyr, which in turn will either produce one or more of multiple possible outcomes..

1) It will incite a revolution or rebellion by users &/or it will virtually promote more hacking...
2) It will strike fear into would-be hackers & bring and end to hacking. (Unlikely)
3) It will generate a negative reputation for the company at large..
4) It will be a foolish move which will incite an unforeseeable negative outcome far and above those listed above this one...
5) Nothing comes about it at all, other than multiple people get spanked hard in court.

No matter what happens, something negative will happen in turn, of that I'm 100% sure!
Edited by _GTech - 3/17/11 at 12:09pm
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I wonder if the Sony MFG Plant is in Japan...
Most Sony products nowadays is made in China/Thailand. Only the newest products get produced in japan from what I understand.

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Why? If this doesn't effect you whatsoever, then why is it necessary to sell a console that has good exclusive games?

I think should be worrying and selling their PS3 if they have used Geohot's hack.
This.

I recently bought a PS3 for console and Playstation exclusives and I'm enjoying it regardless of this silly lawsuit.

I just wish the thing had a better web browser and native MKV support, because to be completely honest, thing would have made an excellent HTPC.
Edited by Skylit - 3/17/11 at 12:28pm
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I guess Sony gets what Sony wants
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I have lost all respect for Sony. Going into everyone's privacy like that. Never going to buy their products again...
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Once Sony's lawyers get the Paypal data, how are they going to differentiate between a PS3-related transfer and everything else?

I'm guessing that "two years of records" is going to include a huge number of transfers that were intended to support Hotz's iPhone jailbreaks. I don't think Sony can make much of a case out of donations by Apple users.
    
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Lesson learned:

Don't..............ever.............**** with Sony. EVER.........
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not like they made anything good that was decently priced
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lesson learned:

Don't..............ever.............**** buy sony products....... Ever.........
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Good. Dig your own grave Sony. Let's see how popular your PS4 is now that you've lied to, stolen from, and cheated your customers.

It's a good thing Sony has no more worthwhile exclusives. Hell, even the MGS franchise is on the Xbox now.
They have not lied. They have not stolen. They have not cheated anyone.
Worthwhile exclusives? MGS, in my opinion, has been trash. That has never been a "worthwhile" exclusive. If you want to talk about exclusives, I suggest you do your research before you act like you know what you are talking about. Heavy Rain, GT5, GoW, Infamous, LBP, Killzone, Uncharted, MAG, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Yakuza, Motorstorm, Dead Nation... Seriously, I always have to begin listening their exclusives because so many people are ignorant of the truth. The PS3 has a ridiculous amount of exclusives, and almost all of them are good.

Also, in case no one bothers to actually keep up with things:
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A federal magistrate has authorized Sony to subpoena PayPal for information about California-based funds sent to accounts associated with PS3 jailbreaker George "GeoHot" Hotz, reports Wired's Threat Level blog. The US District Court ruling in San Francisco is the latest development in a jurisdiction dispute to decide whether Sony can proceed with its lawsuit against Hotz in California or must instead do so in Hotz's home state of New Jersey.

Sony alleges that Hotz received donations for his PS3 hack from Northern California residents (via PayPal), and, if true, the evidence could bolster Sony's case to keep the case in San Francisco court. In a court order, Magistrate Joseph Spero defined the "limited information" that PayPal could be ordered to present as "documents sufficient to identify the source of funds in California that went into any PayPal account associated with geohot@gmail.com for the period of January 1, 2009, to February 1, 2011."

Additionally, Judge Spero ordered Hotz to consent to Sony obtaining all of his tweets dating back to Jan. 1, 2009 and to appear in California for a deposition relating "solely" to the jurisdiction matter (with Sony paying for his "reasonable" expenses).

As for Hotz's "impounded devices," a neutral third party, known simply as "The Intelligence Group" (or "TIG"), has been tasked with conducting a "forensically sound" probe of Hotz's encrypted hard drives (and a calculator) for any data related to his PS3 system circumvention hack. Hotz and Sony will split the first $7,000 charged by TIG, with Sony agreeing to pay any additional fees.
Sony isn't getting all his Paypal data, only the required needed to see if payments were retrieved from California. They've also agreed to pay for his reasonable expenses required for him to travel there for their hearing. They are also willing to pay for half the decryption price of the confiscated hardware, plus any addition fees.
It seems to me, they aren't out to financially destroy anyone. They are actually being completely reasonable, and they are being completely professional about the entire situation.
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