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Ever heard the word 'butthurt?'

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Geohot is being sued for 750,000 - 1,000,000 Euros, yeah, Sony is not out to financially bankrupt him AT ALL.
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ok since everyone seems legally inept, i'll attempt to explain this to you all.

this is a pre-trail jurisdictional argument between the parties. in order to determine proper venue for a trial, the federal rules of civil procedure provide that a proper venue includes one where the significant events leading to the cause of action for litigation took place.

both parties will argue jurisdiction because there are incentives to have the venue in one location or another. the prosecution may want the venue moved away from the hometown of the defendant so the jury pool feels less sentimental connection to him. this type of pre-trial motion is one of many that may occur as the parties try to posture for trial.

now, the main point: just because this is discoverable in the context of determining venue, it may not be admissable to be used as evidence at trial. those motions are completely seperate from this pre-trial motion, and admitting it or not admitting it is based on totally different criteria. one is a federal rules of civil procedure issue, the other is a federal rules of evidence issue. those sets of rules aim to accomplish completely different goals.
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ok since everyone seems legally inept, i'll attempt to explain this to you all.

this is a pre-trail jurisdictional argument between the parties. in order to determine proper venue for a trial, the federal rules of civil procedure provide that a proper venue includes one where the significant events leading to the cause of action for litigation took place.

both parties will argue jurisdiction because there are incentives to have the venue in one location or another. the prosecution may want the venue moved away from the hometown of the defendant so the jury pool feels less sentimental connection to him. this type of pre-trial motion is one of many that may occur as the parties try to posture for trial.

now, the main point: just because this is discoverable in the context of determining venue, it may not be admissable to be used as evidence at trial. those motions are completely seperate from this pre-trial motion, and admitting it or not admitting it is based on totally different criteria. one is a federal rules of civil procedure issue, the other is a federal rules of evidence issue. those sets of rules aim to accomplish completely different goals.
you typed alot but nothing at the same time, its like looking at a blank paper
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you typed alot but nothing at the same time, its like looking at a blank paper
What he is saying is, this information from Paypal probably can't be used as evidence in the actual trial. It is simply evidence to determine where the actual trial will be held. Everyone seems to think they want his Paypal information to determine who paid him so they can go after more people. Everyone also seems to think the Paypal information is to see how much funding he has for the trial. All of that is BS. The information is to determine if he received funds for the project. If he did, the trial can be held in California where the Paypal services are handled.
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What he is saying is, this information from Paypal probably can't be used as evidence in the actual trial. It is simply evidence to determine where the actual trial will be held. Everyone seems to think they want his Paypal information to determine who paid him so they can go after more people. Everyone also seems to think the Paypal information is to see how much funding he has for the trial. All of that is BS. The information is to determine if he received funds for the project. If he did, the trial can be held in California where the Paypal services are handled.
good to see someone with an attention span that exceeds 10 seconds
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They have not lied. They have not stolen. They have not cheated anyone.
Worthwhile exclusives? MGS, in my opinion, has been trash. That has never been a "worthwhile" exclusive. If you want to talk about exclusives, I suggest you do your research before you act like you know what you are talking about. Heavy Rain, GT5, GoW, Infamous, LBP, Killzone, Uncharted, MAG, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Yakuza, Motorstorm, Dead Nation... Seriously, I always have to begin listening their exclusives because so many people are ignorant of the truth. The PS3 has a ridiculous amount of exclusives, and almost all of them are good.
While I have been very appreciative of your objective viewpoints on many of these topics of business and financial and commercial(?) success, myself and a great many other individuals would disagree of MGS being trash. As 74,000 ps3 units were sold the week of mgs4 release compared to the 10k a week norm of the time, and was also labeled the best selling game worldwide until the release of GT5. I still believe that MGS4 is fine piece of technology as most games Ive played since then haven't looked or felt any better.

So while I do accept your opinion that you concluded on the MGS franchise, I don't appreciate you spreading misinformation for the game not being a worthwhile exclusive.
    
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